It is a stretch to say Cokksey's first team could have won the region.

Ward's last team with Sutton and Griffith were a lot better and they did not win the region.

Plus I dont remember Lawson being player of the year in the region.

He was voted player of the year by the coaches at the Sweet 16 and the last team that Ward had was one of his best yes, but a guy named Tyler Zornes shot out of his posterior as I remember hitting fade away shots over the top notch defense of Griffith. But, then again Zornes showed up once a year that being the Region finals asks Ashland (half-court shot to beat the Tomcats in '99).

Cam could have still played for Greenup. He made the choice.

I guess Sutton put no blood, sweat, and tears into that program?

BTW why would Clay be upset with the Little General? You need to forward some of your posts over there and maybe they will see the light.

I never questioned Sutton's effort in the program, but maybe he needs to remember some of those lessons he learned not so many years ago, that's all I say.

He was voted player of the year by the coaches at the Sweet 16 and the last team that Ward had was one of his best yes, but a guy named Tyler Zornes shot out of his posterior as I remember hitting fade away shots over the top notch defense of Griffith. But, then again Zornes showed up once a year that being the Region finals asks Ashland (half-court shot to beat the Tomcats in '99).

Yes that was a senior award but remember Surgalski was only a junior.

I think Zornes played pretty well his whole career not just in the region finals.

Yes that was a senior award but remember Surgalski was only a junior.

I think Zornes played pretty well his whole career not just in the region finals.

Well my point is that Zornes was the man come Region tourney time and in reality he never showed the same flashes on the big stage at Rupp.

Just a question for people on this thread.

If you were an adminstrator and your coach was breaking rules would you address the situation or just look away because you want to win a few basketball games?

Just hypothetical because we all know no rules have been broken according to the supporters of former GC coaches. :sssh:

and all GC adminstrators have political agendas. :sssh:

Believe me the majority of people would take Ward back in a heartbeat as the program would've come to this point. Not to mention one of the premier players this area has had in a while (Cam Thoroughman) would've been a Musketeer. Imagine having him in Green, Gold and Black and I guarantee you would've seen at least a couple of Region Title numbers added to the rafters at "The Greenhouse." It's amazing those many people who was his detractors when he was there many of them tell me they wished he would never been let go. Not to mention as well a top notch coach in Tim Fraley (current Rose Hill Coach) would've been the head coach at GC as his heir apparent. Well no since in wishing for those days there long gone and with it goes the respect that so many put their blood, sweat, and tears into.

 

 

I actually don't know if there is anything about Coach Ward on JJ huddle. Probably just sour grapes about a couple of GC players coming over to Portsmouth Clay and knocking out a couple of Clay players of starting line up. Right or Wrong the two GC players helped them win some games last year. I didn't hear them complaining as much when they were winning with Cam.:irked:

Just a question for people on this thread.

If you were an adminstrator and your coach was breaking rules would you address the situation or just look away because you want to win a few basketball games?

Just hypothetical because we all know no rules have been broken according to the supporters of former GC coaches. :sssh:

and all GC adminstrators have political agendas. :sssh:

As I've stated many times, the old adage "Those who live in glass houses" applies here. I'm sorry Jay I've seen the political nonsense running both ways and yes if he has broken rules, no doubt you should take care of the situation. But, I believe that no hard evidence has been made public, so until I see it in the public domain I have to reserve my judgment either way.

I actually don't know if there is anything about Coach Ward on JJ huddle. Probably just sour grapes about a couple of GC players coming over to Portsmouth Clay and knocking out a couple of Clay players of starting line up. Right or Wrong the two GC players helped them win some games last year. I didn't hear them complaining as much when they were winning with Cam.:irked:

No doubt those two kids led to a ton of wins for the Clay program and they would've benefited the GC program along with others who were not a part of the GC program. Sour grapes are the reason why GC has sunk so low and as I stated earlier it should've never happened.

As I've stated many times, the old adage "Those who live in glass houses" applies here. I'm sorry Jay I've seen the political nonsense running both ways and yes if he has broken rules, no doubt you should take care of the situation. But, I believe that no hard evidence has been made public, so until I see it in the public domain I have to reserve my judgment either way.

So you think GC administrators would go through all of this stuff and negativity and not have any evidence to support their decision?

You think the state board of education lawyer would put his reputation on the line and not have anything?

Give me a break.

I actually don't know if there is anything about Coach Ward on JJ huddle. Probably just sour grapes about a couple of GC players coming over to Portsmouth Clay and knocking out a couple of Clay players of starting line up. Right or Wrong the two GC players helped them win some games last year. I didn't hear them complaining as much when they were winning with Cam.:irked:

jjhuddle had people complaining about 4-5 hour practices.

I dont know if it was true or not.

So you think GC administrators would go through all of this stuff and negativity and not have any evidence to support their decision?

You think the state board of education lawyer would put his reputaion on the line and not have anything?

Give me a break.

I reserve my right for judgment as should you that's all I can say. I know for a fact that one of their "key witnesses" as this person would be in the court of law is not what we would call a credible witness.

No doubt those two kids led to a ton of wins for the Clay program and they would've benefited the GC program along with others who were not a part of the GC program. Sour grapes are the reason why GC has sunk so low and as I stated earlier it should've never happened.

Why exactly was Coach Ward let go at Greenup?

Political agendas I am sure.

The two middle school system is a big part of the problem. When the schools were purposed to be opened they were named Greenup County East (Wurtland) and Greenup County West (McKell). But, then magically those names were literally removed from the schools (I remember seeing the names posted at the Wurtland location on a sign) and the county was once again split with the old animosity from the days of having three independent schools. As far as making it to the Region once in four years, one must understand that when Hicks arrived the program was near the bottom. The previous regime before Hicks seemed to believe that the talent at the school was never ending and seemingly fell out of trees. As I've said before under Ward GC was a program and to have that you have to cultivate the talent, not just expect it to show up. No matter your opinion I think that Hicks was on the verge of bringing the program back to one of the better programs in the 16th Region. Much like his predecessor, I believe that at first he was of the philosophy that the talent would just flood in, but it took a couple of seasons for him to learn differently. The truth is there has always been jealousy in and of the basketball program at GC, it is unfortunate that the many years that one man (Ward) put into a program is no closer to being a contender than it was after he left. As far as who he beat to be 4-1, it's just as hard to judge what his record would be as of now as it is to say the current coach could do just the same.

 

There may not be a big supply of athletes at Greenup. Who's fault is it? No one. There are several top notch players that could have graduated in the past couple of years or play this year that would definately put Greenup back up on top. These players decided not to play or went some where else to play. Greenup needs a coach to stay there for awhile and the players will come. However, the JV has only lost 2 games and the seniors are a very good group of kids. Together they can make a run in the region. Don't give up boys, we all have faith you in you!

Why exactly was Coach Ward let go at Greenup?

Political agendas I am sure.

I won't even give you an answer to that one. I've said enough already.

I just erased a longer post. This is absolutely unreal.