The thread about spring break has several comments about players being required to play the full season. Does this and should this include summer ball?

KHSAA has specific ByLaws, on when the regular season starts and ends. Any team assembled that plays during the summer, is done so to comply with additional ByLaws, dead period, facility usage, etc....

 

Summer teams are often traveling teams, with differing coaches or HS coaches. If HS coaches, KHSAA guidelines must be complied with and in '08, players will have to choose "during the regular HS season", about playing for one or the other and not both.

 

Players who do sign-up for traveling teams, abide the rules of that coach and staff. If he let them go, he does...If he doesn't, then he doesn't and they aren't KHSAA sanctioned games.

 

My same rule would apply, you miss....I'm going to reward those players, that show up.

Providing KHSAA guidlines are complied with and the summer session is completed prior to the dead period can you require Juniors to play. Or just make it a strong suggestion.

Providing KHSAA guidlines are complied with and the summer session is completed prior to the dead period can you require Juniors to play. Or just make it a strong suggestion.

I can't speak for other coaches but as I mentioned earlier, this is NOT a KHSAA sanctioned season, during the summer. Once the State Tournament is complete, it becomes a summer league.

I can't speak for other coaches but as I mentioned earlier, this is NOT a KHSAA sanctioned season, during the summer. Once the State Tournament is complete, it becomes a summer league.

STRIKE3, I'd like some clarification on this subject. I've always heard that the High School Coaches couldn't be the Head Coach or Manager for the summer team. They are strictly forbidden during the dead period, but are also limited outside the dead period. What's the skinny here?

It's highly recommended and fall leagues are also recommended for certain players.

When i played it wasn't required at my school, but it was look at by the coaching staff to see if you tried to improve your game.

High school coaches may coach after school is out for the summer as long as they do not overlap the dead period. It actually only works for about 3 weeks but you can schedule 15-18 games during that time. I am considering making it a requirement for all of our returning players but want to check the ins and outs.

When i played it wasn't required at my school, but it was look at by the coaching staff to see if you tried to improve your game.

 

Right. You don't have to play, but if you want to improve your game, Summer and Fall is the time to do it. I believe that Hazard, Perry Central, and Leslie combine players during the Summer. Not sure who coaches them (none of the HC's do). Knott Central and Allen Central have combined for a team.

 

Another provision by the KHSAA states that you can't use the schools (bought by the school), equipment and uniforms. So, teams have to be careful on what to use and what not to use. It's not that much of a problem, since most players have their own equipment, anyway.

I don't think High School coaches can REQUIRE athletes to do anything during the offseason. In most schools your athletes are good in several sports. What happens when the football, basketball and baseball coaches all REQUIRE a kid to be at all the open gyms, weight room sessions, 7 on 7's, and baseball practices and games? Sharing athletes and cooperation with other coaches is a must. You can provide teams, help kids get on travelling teams, or legion teams and coach your days allowed. Those kids who love baseball will find a way to play, as well as do some of the other things. And most coaches in ANY sport will play the best player during his season. I don't think missing some off season events in any sport is gonna make you sit them. In my experience(24yrs), my philosophy was: It's their summer, let the kids and parents choose what they want to attend. Several parents over the years thanked me for that approach (and a lot of kids played baseball on summer teams). It worked for me.

I don't think High School coaches can REQUIRE athletes to do anything during the offseason. In most schools your athletes are good in several sports. What happens when the football, basketball and baseball coaches all REQUIRE a kid to be at all the open gyms, weight room sessions, 7 on 7's, and baseball practices and games? Sharing athletes and cooperation with other coaches is a must. You can provide teams, help kids get on travelling teams, or legion teams and coach your days allowed. Those kids who love baseball will find a way to play, as well as do some of the other things. And most coaches in ANY sport will play the best player during his season. I don't think missing some off season events in any sport is gonna make you sit them. In my experience(24yrs), my philosophy was: It's their summer, let the kids and parents choose what they want to attend. Several parents over the years thanked me for that approach (and a lot of kids played baseball on summer teams). It worked for me.

 

Excellent point. In my experience however the basketball and football teams are placing demands on the players during the summer and many parents expect baseball to take a back seat because their season has just finished. Probably not a problem in a large school, but when you have limited athletes it can certainly be frustrating.

Thanks. I certainly understand. I have lots of stories and experiences to share on those issues but not the time or space. It takes time (and some good athletes) to build a successful program. When you begin to win and you start getting players to the next level, parents, athletes, and the community will begin to appreciate your hard work and dedication. Our baseball program always had more kids to go on to play college baseball than any other sport. So, the program began to promote itself. But, as I stated before, it takes time.

STRIKE3, I'd like some clarification on this subject. I've always heard that the High School Coaches couldn't be the Head Coach or Manager for the summer team. They are strictly forbidden during the dead period, but are also limited outside the dead period. What's the skinny here?

Not avoiding you, just been busy....HS Coaches, are permitted to help during summer play but NO activity, coaching, facilities or contact during Dead Period.

Not avoiding you, just been busy....HS Coaches, are permitted to help during summer play but NO activity, coaching, facilities or contact during Dead Period.

Just for clarification, a Varsity Head Coach can be a Head Coach for a summer team, but not during the KHSAA Dead Period? At that time they must turn over their coaching responsibilities to a parent during the 2 week dead period. They can then return to the team and be the Head Coach through the fall ball season.

Just for clarefication, a Varsity Head Coach can be a Head Coach for a summer team, but not during the KHSAA Dead Period? At that time they must turn over their coaching responsibilities to a parent during the 2 week dead period. They can then return to the team and be the Head Coach through the fall ball season.

 

 

And that is only if they have players from their high school on the team. They may coach other kids, and their own son, all summer if they choose. Also, not using their own facilities.