Bill Cowher and Jimmy Johnson laughed at the people who were up in arms over “spygate”. They both said there is no competitive advantage to be gained. Oh my, they are in full view of the public making signals. Oh my God, let’s see, they just signaled they are going to be in an offset front, with no blitz and a bracketed coverage. Let me radio this down so we can get this to Tommy. This takes time, and they do cut off the signal to the QB at at a certain time. You don’t think he has seen every front, blitz, and coverage and disguise ever devised? Could it be the Patriots are better coached with more situational football and attention to detail led by Ernie Adams and Bill Belichick? It’s 3rd and 8, 4th quarter, with 2:12 left and down by 4 with 63 yards to go with a backup cornerback just signed last week-let’s not rely on tendencies and repetition, let’s wait for the guy to decipher what a coach might be signaling so we can radio info to our QB. That’s not how it works. I’ll wait for someone to cogently explain how you can get a competitive advantage. Is anybody also aware of the ex-Jet executive you worked in the NFL office who hated the Patriots who was the leaker in both “spygate” and “deflate gate” whose disinformation is still quoted by the public as facts?

 

So you will just ignore the fact the NFL destroyed all the video evidence so no one else could ever see it, because they knew how damaging it would to the NFL.

 

Was their advantage a huge no one you can ever lose with this info advantage not at all. However, you seem to be a pretty smart football guy. So you would understand even a small advantage definitely can help in a big way. Help in scouting a team, help getting a better idea on tendencies, what signals they use to disguise a defense. During in game adjustments having someone continue to study their signals to figure out what plays they are using the most against you and help make halftime adjustments.

 

Once again is it a huge advantage not at all. However, can it give them a slight advantage no doubt. Which in football where literally games can be decided by one possession and even inches. Even a slight advantage can be the difference between winning a close one or not.

 

Now the biggest thing you are clearly missing is they have been breaking the rules, and have gotten caught doing it. I mean they even knew they were breaking them, and why and has been proven that they even had told their people what lies to say if ever caught. So they knew what they were doing was breaking the rules. The NFL can’t have it where it looks like an uneven playing field. Which that is exactly what the Patriots have done. Which is a shame, because they are good enough to where they probably wouldn’t need to.

If there wasn't an advantage to it, they 1) wouldn't waste their time doing it and 2) definitely not do it again after getting caught previously.

Does anybody know who Bill Belichick has a direct line to on his headset? It’s Ernie Adams. Not too many people know who he is. He and Belichick met at Phillips Academy at football practice, a guard and center. He asked if he was related to Steve Belichick, legendary coach/scout at the Naval Academy. Told him he had his dad’s scouting book. Lifetime football nerds were born. Bill started watching film and going on scouting trips with his dad when he was 6. Both of these guys were hired right out of college by NFL teams for their football/film breakdown knowledge. When NFL staffs were much smaller than they are today. Ernie Adams watches film and notices things that no one else does, per Belichick. Belichick makes his new coaches “pad” film. Each play is diagrammed, and filled with every detail. Splits. Movements. Intents. Subtle things. About 10 minutes per play. Hours to finish a game. Then he’ll have them do 3 more games for that opponent...I’m a huge Patriot apologist, but I have no doubt Ernie Adams looks at every conceivable thing to get an advantage, but I want to believe it is the extreme attention to detail and situational football that prepares them for Sunday. I’ll be there tomorrow, hoping for a Patriot win. It’s tough because I want the Bengals to succeed.

Belichick needs to learn how to work it on twitter.

Does anybody know who Bill Belichick has a direct line to on his headset? It’s Ernie Adams. Not too many people know who he is. He and Belichick met at Phillips Academy at football practice, a guard and center. He asked if he was related to Steve Belichick, legendary coach/scout at the Naval Academy. Told him he had his dad’s scouting book. Lifetime football nerds were born. Bill started watching film and going on scouting trips with his dad when he was 6. Both of these guys were hired right out of college by NFL teams for their football/film breakdown knowledge. When NFL staffs were much smaller than they are today. Ernie Adams watches film and notices things that no one else does, per Belichick. Belichick makes his new coaches “pad” film. Each play is diagrammed, and filled with every detail. Splits. Movements. Intents. Subtle things. About 10 minutes per play. Hours to finish a game. Then he’ll have them do 3 more games for that opponent...I’m a huge Patriot apologist, but I have no doubt Ernie Adams looks at every conceivable thing to get an advantage, but I want to believe it is the extreme attention to detail and situational football that prepares them for Sunday. I’ll be there tomorrow, hoping for a Patriot win. It’s tough because I want the Bengals to succeed.

 

Everything you said just supports why they probably do this and break the rules. As you said they are very detailed and break down every little piece of info they can find. Meaning the stuff they have done against the rules, is something else they like to have to go along with every other little detail. Once again it may not be a huge advantage, but even the slightest advantage helps. Plus going against the rules makes it a bigger problem.