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Will the 2007 Reds be Richless?

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A. I'm not surprised that Rich had a problem with a manager.

B. On the other hand, good to see Baseball Guy with some fire in his belly.

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A. I'm not surprised that Rich had a problem with a manager.

B. On the other hand, good to see Baseball Guy with some fire in his belly.

There was more...

Also....

Rheal Cormier and Jerry had words in the final week of the season over Rheal's role.

The Reds told Rheal from the start that he would only throw in close games when the game was on the line....but through most of the season, they used him all over. Then, with two weeks left, Jerry went up to him and said, sorry we have used you all over, the last two weeks, you will only throw when the game is on the line. The very next day, they got him hot in the pen with a 7 run lead or something. He went nuts on Jerry too.

There was more...

Also....

Rheal Cormier and Jerry had words in the final week of the season over Rheal's role.

The Reds told Rheal from the start that he would only throw in close games when the game was on the line....but through most of the season, they used him all over. Then, with two weeks left, Jerry went up to him and said, sorry we have used you all over, the last two weeks, you will only throw when the game is on the line. The very next day, they got him hot in the pen with a 7 run lead or something. He went nuts on Jerry too.

GT, question since all this is trickling out about Narron, is there a campaign by management or others, to almost force him out with negative publicity.

 

Is Narron really disliked that much and what do you think, the Reds will end up doing, since you're more closer to the situation than us.

GT, question since all this is trickling out about Narron, is there a campaign by management or others, to almost force him out with negative publicity.

 

Is Narron really disliked that much and what do you think, the Reds will end up doing, since you're more closer to the situation than us.

From all I can tell he's in solid with Castellini and Krivsky, so I would be shocked if he's gone before next season starts...

From all I can tell he's in solid with Castellini and Krivsky, so I would be shocked if he's gone before next season starts...
....:thumb:

 

I'm fairly familiar with Aurilla's flare, for the dramatics but with the slide the Reds had and being so extended at times, was Cormier naive enough to think he wouldn't be used otherwise.

 

In a perfect situation and consistency in winning, that could happen but they just didn't play good, over continued stretches.

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Also....

Rheal Cormier and Jerry had words in the final week of the season over Rheal's role.

The Reds told Rheal from the start that he would only throw in close games when the game was on the line....but through most of the season, they used him all over. Then, with two weeks left, Jerry went up to him and said, sorry we have used you all over, the last two weeks, you will only throw when the game is on the line. The very next day, they got him hot in the pen with a 7 run lead or something. He went nuts on Jerry too.

 

I think one of Baseball Guy's challenges is logical usage of pitchers. A vet pitcher deserves to know what his role is and to expect the team to somewhat stick to the plan.

I think one of Baseball Guy's challenges is logical usage of pitchers. A vet pitcher deserves to know what his role is and to expect the team to somewhat stick to the plan.
I too agree but unless you are a closer and given the Reds inconsistency at times, being relegated to a specific role was difficult at best.

 

Middle relief often came in, trailing over many of the last 30± games.

This should help...

 

Enquirer

The Reds have 10 players under contract for next season, making a total of $48.925 million:

OF Ken Griffey Jr. $12.5 million

OF Adam Dunn $10.5 million

SP Eric Milton $9 million

C Jason LaRue $5.2 million

SP Bronson Arroyo $3.8 million

RP Rheal Cormier $2.25 million

OF/IF Ryan Freel $1.7 million

IF Scott Hatteberg $1.65 million

C Javier Valentin $1.325 million

IF Juan Castro $1 million

The arbitration-eligible players:

pitchers Aaron Harang and Kyle Lohse and catcher David Ross...will get another $11 million or so. Even if everyone else on the roster made the big-league minimum, that would put the payroll at $65 million.

That would leave $10 million for shopping if the payroll went to $75 million.

Recipe for disaster. I realize these salaries were created by the previous regime, but to pay those top 4 guys 37 mil, is ludicrous.:eek:

How much should the Reds being willing to eat in order to move Junior?

The Reds could be a much better team with somebody other than Narron, IMO. I'd love to have Sweet Lou back, but I don't think it'll happen.

 

I'm not a big Rich Aurilia fan, especially after what he did last year around this same time. He doesn't want to be in Cincinnati, but he wants to play baseball and the Reds are the only team who gave him a shot. He was an integral part of the team this year, and losing him may hurt, but if he doesn't want to be here then HSSB has offered to drive players to the airport before. ;)

BTW, Scott Hatteberg should be at 1st base again next season.

.....I'm not a big Rich Aurilia fan, especially after what he did last year around this same time. He doesn't want to be in Cincinnati, but he wants to play baseball and the Reds are the only team who gave him a shot. He was an integral part of the team this year, and losing him may hurt, but if he doesn't want to be here then HSSB has offered to drive players to the airport before. ;)
I like his baseball talent but with the good, inevitably the bad will step forward.
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How much should the Reds being willing to eat in order to move Junior?

More than salary, I believe you would have to accept not getting much in return. A #4 or 5 starter, a setup man would be my best hope.

How much should the Reds being willing to eat in order to move Junior?

Good question. Jr obviously should go to an AL team and DH. How much would big market AL team be willing to pay? Rumors are swirling that "Gourd head" is going to the Yanks, so do you think Boston might react by aquiring Jr? Food for thought.

More than salary, I believe you would have to accept not getting much in return. .

 

If I'm Krivsky, once we reach a fair financial settlement (ie how much the Reds will have to pay him ), anything else offered by my counterpart is a bonus. Freeing up the cash and using it wisely would be the biggest benefit.

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