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I'd rather see the Cubs hire Penella

I'd rather see the Cubs hire Penella

Do you like his style of coaching or Pinella has more experience than Girardi. Think Pinella would just be a better fit?....just curious.

 

I thought the criticisms, from the 'experts' about Girardi, being a control type person were interesting. I think most Managers/Head Coaches want to be in control, have input and daily decisions of roster, playing and position.

 

With the inability of many to consistently manage in the "windy city", makes one speculate how much the confines of Wrigley impacts the wins, along with the current pitching staff.

 

In my opinion, extremely hard place to consistently win, in that park. I know it's the same for both teams.

The problem with the Cubs is that they have been in love with players that can't get on base. Last in the NL and 29th overall in OBP...

I dont think Girardi has enough experience yet, just doesn't seem like it would work, being he was several of those guys teammates just a few years ago. I want a mgr who will play small ball and do the little things, seemed like Cubs did more of that this year at the begining but it tapered off.

Do you like his style of coaching or Pinella has more experience than Girardi. Think Pinella would just be a better fit?....just curious.

 

I thought the criticisms, from the 'experts' about Girardi, being a control type person were interesting. I think most Managers/Head Coaches want to be in control, have input and daily decisions of roster, playing and position.

 

With the inability of many to consistently manage in the "windy city", makes one speculate how much the confines of Wrigley impacts the wins, along with the current pitching staff.

 

In my opinion, extremely hard place to consistently win, in that park. I know it's the same for both teams.

Being that the Cubs are in the same division as the Reds, I hope they get someone terrible as a manager.

The problem with the Cubs is that they have been in love with players that can't get on base. Last in the NL and 29th overall in OBP...

Those numbers are a perfect example, of not acquiring players who can help win at home. No way in the world, in Wrigley field the Cubs should be this low....not acceptable, from a management standpoint. Managers play the players, that the Owners and GM's acquire.

 

I don't think Girardi has enough experience yet, just doesn't seem like it would work, being he was several of those guys teammates just a few years ago. I want a mgr who will play small ball and do the little things, seemed like Cubs did more of that this year at the beginning but it tapered off.

I agree my friend, either a fundamental team with solid, groundball type pitching or a power-laden team, to help win in Wrigley and solid pitching....Injuries and lack of pitching, have really hurt them and GT's stat, about OBP% (which I've always liked more than batting average), is amazing.

 

Being that the Cubs are in the same division as the Reds, I hope they get someone terrible as a manager.

The Reds are much better, than the Cubs currently are or will be for the next 1-2 years. I understand your point, even though I'm a Detroit and St. Louis fan.

I think Girardi would be a good pick. Age is close enough to relate to the players, and he was fundamentally sound as a player, which has rubbed off to the Marlins this year. People talk about him being too young and not having experience. Don Baylor had experience. So did Dusty Baker. Except for one year, what did that get them.

 

The Cubs need a manager that can help develop and play the younger kids, instead of playing man crushes like Neifi Perez, Ramon Martinez, and Jerry Hairston every day.

 

They need someone who will call their players out publicly for being a bonehead instead of taking the old school route.

 

They need someone who can teach Jacques Jones how to run bases, Aramis Ramirez to hit in April and May, put Ronny Cendeno at one position and leave him there, and publicly have confidence in a young pitching staff.

 

The wildcard to the whole deal could be Rick Kranitz, Giaradi's pitching coach at Florida who was in the Cubs organization for over 20 years -- the latter part as the minor league pitching instructor. Kranitz' ability to teach young pitchers was evident with Johnson and Nolasco this year. The Marlins are doing their best to keep him.

 

Bottom line is, it doesn't matter who the Cubs get as a field manager. The front office has to drop back and punt and reorganize a once fertile farm system. When Derrek Lee was injured in April, the Cubs had NO one they could promote to take his place. When Barrett was suspended, they had to turn to Phil Nevin as a backup to Henry Blanco. They need to take the best player available in the draft instead of stocking up on pitching early.

 

It's not a quick fix, but it's one that will be easier now that Andy McPhail is no longer the president, since he wasn't around much in the past two years anyway. Look where they went in the last two years.

 

20,000 empty seats at Wrigley each home game the last month sent the message. Of course, the Cubs will never win anything until the Tribune sells them to a Mark Cuban/Tom Hicks/Castellanos type hands-on owner instead of a faceless corporation that only looks at the bottom line.

Sweet Lou...

'Yeah, I've talked to the Cubs,'' said Piniella, who is broadcasting the ALCS for Fox. ''Chicago is a wonderful city. And the Cubs are a very storied franchise. They have great fans. I had a nice conversation with their general manager, Jim Hendry. He's a real baseball guy. We just have to wait and see what happens.

''I've always enjoyed going to Chicago as a player and as a manager. It's truly one of the great cities in our country. Being a part of turning around the Cubs would be a challenge.''

Sweet Lou...

'Yeah, I've talked to the Cubs,'' said Piniella, who is broadcasting the ALCS for Fox. ''Chicago is a wonderful city. And the Cubs are a very storied franchise. They have great fans. I had a nice conversation with their general manager, Jim Hendry. He's a real baseball guy. We just have to wait and see what happens.

''I've always enjoyed going to Chicago as a player and as a manager. It's truly one of the great cities in our country. Being a part of turning around the Cubs would be a challenge.''

 

Very interesting. I've also heard talk that he may have interviewed at San Francisco as well. Sounds like the team that offers more money will get Sweet Lou.

Sweet Lou...

'Yeah, I've talked to the Cubs,'' said Piniella, who is broadcasting the ALCS for Fox. ''Chicago is a wonderful city. And the Cubs are a very storied franchise. They have great fans. I had a nice conversation with their general manager, Jim Hendry. He's a real baseball guy. We just have to wait and see what happens.

''I've always enjoyed going to Chicago as a player and as a manager. It's truly one of the great cities in our country. Being a part of turning around the Cubs would be a challenge.''

Sounds like he may be interested, its just what the Cubs need, a hard nosed, old school coach! Theres nothing I would love more than to see the Cubs and Reds take the Cental and Wild Card every year...

I think he learned his lesson with the Tampa situation. The Nats contacted him and his response was something to the effect of "they are rebuilding and wanting to play the younger players and it's not a good fit for me."

Girardi has more of an upside and will be there longer than four years, unlike Lou.

Girardi has more of an upside and will be there longer than four years, unlike Lou.

What about the claims, Girardi is a "control" type of Manager....How many Owners and GM's, will give up that much authority.

He managed one season. How can he get that kind of label. Of course, when you tell the owner to shut up when he's on the front row blasting an umpire, I'm sure the owner will call Girardi just about anything.