Advice for Grant County ... it may be heresy to some to hear this but ... follow the Simon Kenton model. Schedule down; play teams out of district that you are confident you can beat; go as low as low you must to get those wins; then build it from there. Make the goal for now finishing at least .500 every year. When kids see wins, they will start to buy in. I think dropping out of the district is ok this year if it gets you wins but I would not stay out more than this year and next at the most.

I think that's what they are trying to do. Why would you suggest they stay out of district for no more than 2 years? I think they should stay out until they can have a reasonable expectation to at least compete. Maybe not win, but compete. I think this takes more than 2 years.

If the district is going to be Highlands, Cov Cath, Dixie, then there is no reason to play in a district, stay independent and schedule who you want. Grant Co is not winning a state title in football, everyone knows that.

At this point I agree with you. I think when they can reasonably compete they can rejoin the district, but right now it's completely counter productive to the goal which is to build momentum around the program.

At this point I agree with you. I think when they can reasonably compete they can rejoin the district, but right now it's completely counter productive to the goal which is to build momentum around the program.

 

I think more teams should drop out and schedule each other.

I think more teams should drop out and schedule each other.

When you have a school like Grant County with a large enrollment, but a small participation rate for sports, especially football, then it's the only logistical option that allows you to build your program.

I think that's what they are trying to do. Why would you suggest they stay out of district for no more than 2 years? I think they should stay out until they can have a reasonable expectation to at least compete. Maybe not win, but compete. I think this takes more than 2 years.

 

Two years would be the goal. If at the end of two years you think you need a 3rd year, I can appreciate that. If after 3 years you still think you need to stay out of the district, you have the wrong man leading your program. At some point you want to start playing playoff games and competing for something more than wins over lesser opponents.

Two years would be the goal. If at the end of two years you think you need a 3rd year, I can appreciate that. If after 3 years you still think you need to stay out of the district, you have the wrong man leading your program. At some point you want to start playing playoff games and competing for something more than wins over lesser opponents.

I think you are underestimating the hill the coaching staff at GC is facing. There are athletes in the GC district, just none that play football. They have some big dudes who would do damage in the trenches, they don't play football. Thats what I feel is the goal of this coaching staff, or at least this is what my goal would be. You need to win to get these kids to start playing. After 2-3 years this should happen based on the schedules they will play. But they won't be able to compete in their district until the athletes start playing if they ever do start playing.

I think you are underestimating the hill the coaching staff at GC is facing. There are athletes in the GC district, just none that play football. They have some big dudes who would do damage in the trenches, they don't play football. Thats what I feel is the goal of this coaching staff, or at least this is what my goal would be. You need to win to get these kids to start playing. After 2-3 years this should happen based on the schedules they will play. But they won't be able to compete in their district until the athletes start playing if they ever do start playing.

 

If you are playing a very weak schedule and not above .500 after 3 years, you don't have the right coaches.

If you are playing a very weak schedule and not above .500 after 3 years, you don't have the right coaches.

I think they will be. But over .500 doesnt mean they are ready to compete with Highlands, Dixie, and Cov Cath.

I think they will be. But over .500 doesnt mean they are ready to compete with Highlands, Dixie, and Cov Cath.

 

That doesn't matter. Keep a weak non-district schedule, get your wins and play the tough district opponents to challenge yourself and start learning so you move to a higher level. At some point you are going to want to jump back into district play or the program becomes a bit of a farce.

Edited August 29, 20179 yr by Voice of Reason

I think more teams should drop out and schedule each other.

 

I would be find with an independent district if you will, (all the teams that will not participate in the playoffs) Let them play 10 regular season games and let them have a bowl game type event vs just independent teams for game 11 during week 2 of the playoffs vs other independent teams.

Two years would be the goal. If at the end of two years you think you need a 3rd year, I can appreciate that. If after 3 years you still think you need to stay out of the district, you have the wrong man leading your program. At some point you want to start playing playoff games and competing for something more than wins over lesser opponents.

 

You have no clue how it works at Grant Co, there isnt this pipeline of talent that comes through. They can barely field full youth teams for each age division as it is now.

 

Grant could permanently stay as an independent team, and it wouldn't bother me one bit.

I think you are underestimating the hill the coaching staff at GC is facing. There are athletes in the GC district, just none that play football. They have some big dudes who would do damage in the trenches, they don't play football. Thats what I feel is the goal of this coaching staff, or at least this is what my goal would be. You need to win to get these kids to start playing. After 2-3 years this should happen based on the schedules they will play. But they won't be able to compete in their district until the athletes start playing if they ever do start playing.

 

The issue with that is getting them to start playing win the start high school is almost to late, to catch up to everyone else. Sure a true athlete kid can maybe help, but they need more than a few to have significant impact.

If you are playing a very weak schedule and not above .500 after 3 years, you don't have the right coaches.

 

I would argue their schedule this year isnt weak by any means.

That doesn't matter. Keep a weak non-district schedule, get your wins and play the tough district opponents to challenge yourself and start learning so you move to a higher level. At some point you are going to want to jump back into district play or the program becomes a bit of a farce.

 

There is no challenge in playing Cov Cath, Highlands, and Dixie. It would be like Brossart playing Trinity.

The issue with that is getting them to start playing win the start high school is almost to late, to catch up to everyone else. Sure a true athlete kid can maybe help, but they need more than a few to have significant impact.

Thats what I'm trying to get at. There are athletes in the county, they just don't play football. But its not like they quit playing football to pursue other sports, they just never played football to begin with. Kids don't ever develop a love for the game.