Part of this style of play thing is parents and to some degree players. They see teams spread or sling it around and that's what they want to do. It takes a little less intestinal fortitude to run a pass route or stalk block than to stick your nose up in there on double wing super power. Now before some spread guy gets his visor all twisted really good spread teams' rec have plenty of intestinal fortitude. They are tough kids.

 

Every team should have a system. Think of it like a cook book. Each year you look through your ingredients to see what you have and what you can fix. Anyone that cooks knows there are times you can substitute out ingredients if you missing something (oil, eggs, applesauce, etc). Same thing with your system. When you whole sale change it sets everyone back and it shows you didn't have a system.

 

One reason for bad spread teams is coaching. Hate to say it but not everyone coaching takes it seriously nor do they have the same coaching talent. To run a spread you better have a minimum of 3 guys that REALLY know their stuff. That's harder than you think. In other systems you can hide inexperienced coaches. Some systems one coach can coach the whole offense. Not ideal but it can be done.

 

To the parents that feel like their boy is not getting that scholarship due to the system. If your son is that good 90% or more of the time he'll be found. Dan Marino was a wing-t QB. Oh a Brett Farve? He was a triple option QB in HS.

 

This is the TRUTH.

 

Every system can win, and every system can lose. Every system can get your kid a D1 scholarship, if they work hard enough and apply themselves and have the gifts. System is all about fit and function for the whole team.

This is the TRUTH.

 

Every system can win, and every system can lose. Every system can get your kid a D1 scholarship, if they work hard enough and apply themselves and have the gifts. System is all about fit and function for the whole team.

 

The big elephant in the room that it 90% (or more) of the equation. :lol2:

I see the discussion turning to what it takes to be a spread offense. "Gifts", "talents" , rural clientele keep you from it.

I have 2 questions?

A. are you speaking of a spread with a running qb or a spread with a passing qb?

B. what are these gifts and talents that god has to provide and coaches just have to pray for are we talking about?

Part of this style of play thing is parents and to some degree players. They see teams spread or sling it around and that's what they want to do. It takes a little less intestinal fortitude to run a pass route or stalk block than to stick your nose up in there on double wing super power. Now before some spread guy gets his visor all twisted really good spread teams' rec have plenty of intestinal fortitude. They are tough kids.

 

Every team should have a system. Think of it like a cook book. Each year you look through your ingredients to see what you have and what you can fix. Anyone that cooks knows there are times you can substitute out ingredients if you missing something (oil, eggs, applesauce, etc). Same thing with your system. When you whole sale change it sets everyone back and it shows you didn't have a system.

 

One reason for bad spread teams is coaching. Hate to say it but not everyone coaching takes it seriously nor do they have the same coaching talent. To run a spread you better have a minimum of 3 guys that REALLY know their stuff. That's harder than you think. In other systems you can hide inexperienced coaches. Some systems one coach can coach the whole offense. Not ideal but it can be done.

 

To the parents that feel like their boy is not getting that scholarship due to the system. If your son is that good 90% or more of the time he'll be found. Dan Marino was a wing-t QB. Oh a Brett Farve? He was a triple option QB in HS.

 

Bold truth a lot of people don't realize.

I agree if you're talking more air raid type spread. Running spread, not really, why do you think so? Still going to be very simple pass concepts with probably a mix of a few run schemes up front. Other than that what makes it that different from any other running offense? You run into some issues if you live and die in 10 personnel and you get that 7 man box on defense that forces your hand, but that's with any offense when they put more in there than you can block you either have to be able to exploit something on the perimeter or bring a TE into the game.

I had a coach tell me you can't play physical in a 2pt stance. Dumbest comment I have ever heard.

I had a coach tell me you can't play physical in a 2pt stance. Dumbest comment I have ever heard.

 

The only thing that keeps a kid from playing physically is a kids mentality.

I had a coach tell me you can't play physical in a 2pt stance. Dumbest comment I have ever heard.

May be true, but you can play more physically in a 3 point stance. I have no problem with spreading it out at times, but I think it is not smart to be in a 2 point stance on 3rd and 1 in an obvious running situation.

May be true, but you can play more physically in a 3 point stance. I have no problem with spreading it out at times, but I think it is not smart to be in a 2 point stance on 3rd and 1 in an obvious running situation.

 

Tell that to Chuck Smith who plays his 6 technique on the te in a 2 point stance. Any number of odd front linebackers and even front ends do it every week very physically.

I agree with a lot of this... Not sure about 10 on 11, though. Most run plays leave at least 2 defenders out of the play entirely.

Tell that to Chuck Smith who plays his 6 technique on the te in a 2 point stance. Any number of odd front linebackers and even front ends do it every week very physically.

I think playing a 6 technique or inside LB on defense is a totally different thing than an offensive lineman on offense in short yardage. I have not seen Boyle Co. play in a few years, but I bet Chuck Smith does not have his offensive linemen in a 2 point stance on 3rd and 1.

I think playing a 6 technique or inside LB on defense is a totally different thing than an offensive lineman on offense in short yardage. I have not seen Boyle Co. play in a few years, but I bet Chuck Smith does not have his offensive linemen in a 2 point stance on 3rd and 1.

 

His defensive end is. Whats the difference?

If a kid is playing a 6 and is up in a two that kid is probably pretty dang good! Is it an every down stance or pass situations?

His defensive end is. Whats the difference?

 

The difference is what the two different positions are asked to do. The role of the 6 technique defensive end is to hit the TE, shed his block, and pursue to that ball to make a tackle. His job is not necessarily to knock the TE back. The job of an offensive lineman in short yardage situations is to knock the defender back. Which I believe can best be accomplished while coming out of a 3 point stance. I am not saying that an offensive lineman should never be in a 2 point stance. I just think coaches that have their offensive linemen in 2 point stances regardless of the situation are not wise. In obvious run situations, get your hand in the dirt, come off of the ball, and knock the defense back!

The difference is what the two different positions are asked to do. The role of the 6 technique defensive end is to hit the TE, shed his block, and pursue to that ball to make a tackle. His job is not necessarily to knock the TE back. The job of an offensive lineman in short yardage situations is to knock the defender back. Which I believe can best be accomplished while coming out of a 3 point stance. I am not saying that an offensive lineman should never be in a 2 point stance. I just think coaches that have their offensive linemen in 2 point stances regardless of the situation are not wise. In obvious run situations, get your hand in the dirt, come off of the ball, and knock the defense back!

 

I think its laziness in doing what has been done. I think its easier for the average coach to get a kids hips down and pad level low. Just because something is easier doesn't make it better. In the grand scheme of things 3rd and 1 and goaline is a fake way to argue style because the evil "spread teams" that win usually have the line in a 3 point stance in those situations if they are running the football inside.