There was a Harvard or Yale professor that set out to prove cops target or shot blacks at a higher rate. After he was complete he found the exact opposite of his preconceived idea was what the facts showed.

 

Of course those not wanting to see or believe those findings dismissed the study out of hand...nothing new there.

So I read the summary of the actual report.

 

Fox did a pretty poor job of explaining it.

 

The report says that white officers did not "significantly" more likely to "kill" a black suspect than a black officer.

 

A few things:

 

They focused solely on killings which, obviously, does not include arrests where the suspect did not die.

 

They also appeared to say by using "significantly" that whites did kill more than black officers.

 

I'd say it's an interesting study but it doesn't fully answer the "target" issue since one can be targeted without ending up in the morgue.

It didn't have to because they aren't. Cops aren't waking up in the morning thinking or hopin they get to go kill a black person.

 

You'll pardon me if I don't use your scientific methodology of "it's true because it's true."

There was a Harvard or Yale professor that set out to prove cops target or shot blacks at a higher rate. After he was complete he found the exact opposite of his preconceived idea was what the facts showed.

 

Of course those not wanting to see or believe those findings dismissed the study out of hand...nothing new there.

 

The study linked showed one problem with coming up with an accurate conclusion: the data isn't available to make such a claim. May be true but the data isn't there to support it.

 

I'm still surprised how poor the data is on these types of incidents.

You'll pardon me if I don't use your scientific methodology of "it's true because it's true."

 

I understand but I really don't think cops wake up in the morning hoping they get a chance to kill a black person.

 

I also think most of cops want to avoid any conflict that can end up killing a person or themselves being killed.

I understand but I really don't think cops wake up in the morning hoping they get a chance to kill a black person.

 

 

I don't either. However, that's not what we're debating.

I don't either. However, that's not what we're debating.

 

We are debating if white cops target blacks and I don't think they do.

I don't think a cop want a conflict with any race that can result in killing someone or being killed.

 

If anything the media is putting a target on us all by fueling a fire and adding false info to fit an agenda.

Hey Clyde I will say one thing, you are great a making a person go back and re read and re think what is said or wrote.

I appreciate that too, it helps me sometimes whether I want to believe it or not.

We are debating if white cops target blacks and I don't think they do.

I don't think a cop want a conflict with any race that can result in killing someone or being killed.

 

If anything the media is putting a target on us all by fueling a fire and adding false info to fit an agenda.

 

 

You may be correct. However, your opinion nor mine can truly be supported with fact. It's a hunch / guess / hope.

Hey Clyde I will say one thing, you are great a making a person go back and re read and re think what is said or wrote.

I appreciate that too, it helps me sometimes whether I want to believe it or not.

 

Very kind. My one good trait is to remove emotion from debate. Words and facts are important.

Very kind. My one good trait is to remove emotion from debate. Words and facts are important.

 

You do remove emotion well. It causes a lot of emotion on the other end too. But that is what seeing the other side does to us. I wish I could do the same.

Have a great Thanksgiving.

Facts, and this study disagree with you.

 

Facts in your white world are different than facts in my world.

So I read the summary of the actual report.

 

Fox did a pretty poor job of explaining it.

 

The report says that white officers did not "significantly" more likely to "kill" a black suspect than a black officer.

 

A few things:

 

They focused solely on killings which, obviously, does not include arrests where the suspect did not die.

 

They also appeared to say by using "significantly" that whites did kill more than black officers.

 

I'd say it's an interesting study but it doesn't fully answer the "target" issue since one can be targeted without ending up in the morgue.

 

How much did you actually read?

 

"White officers are significantly less likely than black officers to kill black suspects, and they are not statistically significantly different from Hispanic, other race, and unknown race police office"

 

And...

 

"The odds of a black suspect being killed by a black police officer are consistently greater than a white officer"

Facts in your white world are different than facts in my world.

 

This is absolutely not true. Facts don't change. Statistics don't change.

This is absolutely not true. Facts don't change. Statistics don't change.

 

Whatever.