Xman85 Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 I just got home from watching a little 8-man high school football. Evangel Christian played host to Beth Haven. The final score was 90-40 Beth Haven. Evangel Christian has only 14 players on the whole team and 2 of those were out hurt by the 4th Q. Beth Haven had around 25 and played their starters the whole game. They even on-side kicked every kickoff in the 2nd half except the final one. They also faked a PAT when up 40 points:eek: ....with their starters... I would be thoroughly embarrassed to be a Beth Haven parent. They had several kids on the sideline that did not see playing time, while their starters were running on-side kids when up 30, and 40 points.:mad: How do you justify this?....and from a so-called Christian school at that????:irked: :madman: :fight: Totally class-less...!
Charger1 Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 Wow. Now that is running up the score. Stuff like that will come back to haunt that coach. That is completely uncalled for.
Xman85 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Posted September 2, 2006 Wow. Now that is running up the score. Stuff like that will come back to haunt that coach. That is completely uncalled for. I would like to hear what the coaches' excuse is....and I would really like to hear what he would have to say after....like you said.......when it comes back to haunt him..
Brewsky Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 With 25 kids, why not try to play a real 11-man schedule?
Xman85 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Posted September 2, 2006 : With 25 kids, why not try to play a real 11-man schedule? One of their parents said they do play a couple of 11-man games....and Evangel is just the opposite...they only play a couple 8-man games....:creepy:
Brewsky Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 Mountain teams like Williamsburg and Phelps have 20 or so players every year. From your description, this does sound pitiful.
Pete W Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 I just talked to a Beth Haven coach and he has a rebuttal. They didn't onside kick (10+ yarder where the kicking team tries to recover the ball), they squibb kicked it, a low bouncing kick on the ground down the field to avoid # 5 on the return. They did play 2nd string, in the 3rd qtr the 2nd string QB fumbled and # 5 for Evangel returned it for a TD, # 5 also had 2 kickoff returns for TD's and a couple of TD runs, he scored all of Evangel's TD's except one. They didn't intentionally go for 2, a bad snap/hold resulted in the backup QB (holder) jumping up and going for 2. Beth Haven is a spread it out pass and throw down the field team, but in the 4th qtr they pulled everyone in into a double tight (in 8-man that's 5 on the line) and had the QB and 2 RB's in the backfield and they ran between the tackles trying to run the already running clock and end the game.
Brewsky Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 That sounds better. Why not MAN UP and play 11 man though?
Pete W Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 He also says that everyone for Beth Haven played except a couple of 8th graders, they started putting in the 8th graders and a couple got trucked by # 5 so they pulled them to prevent injury.
Pete W Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 He said the increase in numbers began last year and 2 years ago they had just 15 guys, including 8th graders. They are planning on going 11 man next year and will be in a tough district with Holy Cross and others. They also will graduate a lot this year but still plan to move to 11 man. They are KHSAA in all other sports, and have a pretty good softball team that had several good 8th graders last year.
Xman85 Posted September 3, 2006 Author Posted September 3, 2006 I just talked to a Beth Haven coach and he has a rebuttal. They didn't onside kick (10+ yarder where the kicking team tries to recover the ball), they squibb kicked it, a low bouncing kick on the ground down the field to avoid # 5 on the return. They did play 2nd string, in the 3rd qtr the 2nd string QB fumbled and # 5 for Evangel returned it for a TD, # 5 also had 2 kickoff returns for TD's and a couple of TD runs, he scored all of Evangel's TD's except one. They didn't intentionally go for 2, a bad snap/hold resulted in the backup QB (holder) jumping up and going for 2. Beth Haven is a spread it out pass and throw down the field team, but in the 4th qtr they pulled everyone in into a double tight (in 8-man that's 5 on the line) and had the QB and 2 RB's in the backfield and they ran between the tackles trying to run the already running clock and end the game. I'm going to have to call him on some of this....There was no doubt that they were kicking on-side kicks...no doubt!....On one kick the ball didn't even go 6 yards so for some reason they were given another try and that kick only went about 11. All of these so-called squib kicks never went more than 15 yards....and the other players all collapsed to that side of the kick....kinda of sounds like an onside me....sure as heck looked like one. They did start to run the ball late in the 4th but still had the majority of their 1st string in the game..... I would not kick to #5 either...if he played for a team with better lineman....or just more of them....he would be included in some Mr. Football talks...He has Vic Anderson moves, speed and size.....He is a one man show for Evangel....His name is DeMarcus Blakemore....he will be a steal for some college team as he is under the radar playing for such a small program that has only been around for about 4 years.
Xman85 Posted September 3, 2006 Author Posted September 3, 2006 He also says that everyone for Beth Haven played except a couple of 8th graders, they started putting in the 8th graders and a couple got trucked by # 5 so they pulled them to prevent injury. Unless the rules have changed this year....he is not allowed to play 8th graders in a varsity game...Soccer and football are the exceptions to the 8th grader eligiblity rules
statmanhensley Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 If they played 8th graders on a high school football team then why have they not had to forfeit their games??? If I'm not mistaken, the KHSAA has a rule against playing middle school kids on down in "contact sports". If it is a rules violation then it needs to be enforced...if it's not then I'll be the first to apologize for making the accusation.
statmanhensley Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 Unless the rules have changed this year....he is not allowed to play 8th graders in a varsity game...Soccer and football are the exceptions to the 8th grader eligiblity rules You read my mind. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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