For some perspective... If a new HS opened started playing football in 2016 and had an undefeated, state championship season EVERY year... They would be to 800 wins in 53+ years!!! Think about that - an undefeated season EVERY year and they wouldn't get to 800 wins until into the 2070 season.

Isn't this list just as much about the lack of parity in football in Kentucky as it is about longevity? By looking at a list of the top 50 dated Sept. 2, 2015 Kentucky has 6 schools listed (Highlands = #2 1,111 games - 868 wins - 78.13%, Male = #4 1,215 games - 844 wins - 69.47%, Mayfield = #5 1,116 games - 833 wins - 74.64%, Paducah Tighman = #25 1,096 games - 757 wins - 69.07%, Danville = #35T 1,018 games - 742 wins - 72.89%, and Saint X = #42 1,036 games - 731 wins - 70.56%). That is three schools in the top 5. Traditional powerhouse states like California ( 2 teams with the best being Long Beach Poly = # 21T 1,091 games - 756 wins), Texas ( 4 teams with the best being Amarillo = #26 1,112 games - 754 wins), and Florida ( no one in the top 50) listed in the top 50. Now, I am not trying to downplay the accomplishments of these teams, what they have done is nothing short of being dominate.

 

I'm not following you, Tiger. Lack of parity in what regard?

I think he is saying the dominant teams have always been dominant. There is some truth to that BUT statistics like this can mislead us.

 

There are lots and lots of schools that played football pre 1950 that no longer exist.

 

There are lots of schools that play now that did not exist prior to 1970.

 

I'm much more familiar with the west side so think about this.

 

Mayfield, Murray, Tilghman, Hopkinsville, Owensboro, Bowling Green, Russellville, Glasgow, Franklin-Simpson, Madisonville, Henderson County, Owensboro Catholic.

 

I think most would agree that these schools have all enjoyed a fair amount of success over several decades. If you look back before 1970 these were the teams that were established and had played for several years. I think the last to start football of this group was Franklin-Simpson in 1944. Russellville started in '36 or so.

I think macdon covered the longevity thing pretty well. Very nice work. Not quite my point though. My point was the lack of parity or depth of talent. Take any class in Kentucky that you want, does not matter. There a few (an average of 5 I would say) that could be considered the "haves", and the rest are the "have-nots". A couple of those in each class are perennially there, and the rest seem to come and go. The depth of quality teams just isn't present in Kentucky like it is in some other states (i.e. Florida, Texas, California, etc.).

Until this year MaxPreps has posted the top 50 winning programs using the National Federation records, you know the site that keeps all the high school team and individual records. I have watched these closely because MF was climbing higher yearly. Well using the National Federation records Male and Mayfield both past Washington Mass. This posting this year by Max allowed Washington Mass state association records to be used rather than the National Federation. That is strange because Max has posted this list yearly as I have watched it closely, Mayfield passed Washington Mass mid season this year and it was acknowledged

 

 

 

1. 891 - Valdosta (Ga.)

Football Friday Night: 891-216-34

Wilson: 892-215-34

NFHS: 891-216-34

Team website: 891-216-34

2014: 9-2

 

2. 868 - Highlands (Fort Thomas, Ky.)

Football Friday Night: 868-217-26

Wilson: 868-229-26

NFHS: 868-229-26

KHSAA: 868-217-26

2014: 13-2

 

3. 849 - Washington (Massillon, Ohio)

Football Friday Night: 849-277-36

Wilson: 837-255-35

NFHS: 837-256-35

OHSAA: 849-277-36

2014: 7-4

 

4. 844 - Male (Louisville, Ky.)

Football Friday Night: 844-322-49

Wilson: 842-321-35

NFHS: 844-321-49

KHSAA: 844-322-49

2014: 11-1

 

5. 833 - Mayfield (Ky.)

Football Friday Night: 833-251-32

Wilson: 830-250-32

NFHS: 832-251-32

KHSAA: 833-251-32

2014: 14-1

 

Washington Mass won 7 games in 2014 and 4 games in 2015

The official records of the National Federation read Valdosta, Highlands, Male, Mayfield, Washington Mass

Here are the records from the NFHS, this season is not added yet

Washington won 4 games, Male 14 so far and still playing, Mayfield 13 so far and still playing.

 

 

Records for "Football, Eleven-player

Team

All-Time

Defense

Offense

 

State Championships

Undefeated Teams (Includes Ties)

Wins

 

All-Time

 

 

1. 891.0 Valdosta GA (1913-17; 1919-2014, 891-216-34)

2. 868.0 Fort Thomas Highlands KY (1915-2014, 868-229-26)

3. 844.0 Louisville Male KY (1893-2014, 844-321-49)

4. 837.0 Massillon Washington OH (1894-2014, 837-256-35)

5. 832.0 Mayfield KY (1919-2014, 832-251-32)

Hope to be around for #900 and #1000.

 

I'll drink too that friend.

^^^^ correct toothpick.... we are #4