Cats I dont care about bumper stickers . Or Ky's gov race. Just speaking to this one situation which you seem to be ignoring . I refuse to believe as politically inclined as you seem to be you have not heard what went down. I'm not demonizing her at all. I'm asking her supporters to go on the record . She either lied to Chelsea C or lied to the parents . Do you care about the truth or it just doesnt matter ? " Maybe she lied " ? She's running for commander in chief to possibly send my ( and maybe your ) families into foreign conflicts . It matters to me . Shouldnt the truth still count for something ?

If the House committee on Benghazi couldn't plow any new ground on this topic last week after 11 hours of grilling, what do you hope to accomplish with your "quest for truth" on the chit-chat board?

I've accomplished knowing her supporters are just as slick as she is ??? Could a single supporter just answer a simple yes or no question -- Step up to the plate TTP , Did she lie to the parents of the slain Americans or not ? I know you and others will continue to dodge this inconvenient story. Bottom line - You guys just dont care . Carry on.

I've accomplished knowing her supporters are just as slick as she is ??? Could a single supporter just answer a simple yes or no question -- Step up to the plate TTP , Did she lie to the parents of the slain Americans or not ? I know you and others will continue to dodge this inconvenient story. Bottom line - You guys just dont care . Carry on.

If your intent was to belittle people like me and others for not agreeing with you, then you succeeded. Certainly the Benghazi story evolved as the facts became known. It was a breaking story. Comments were made based on the info available at the moment. Similar to the WMD comments made by Bush-Cheney-Powell, but far less harmful to the country as to what occurred 11-12 years ago.

All career politicians lie, deceive, change positions and generally respond only to those that have influence over their career ambitions. They say nothing. commit to nothing and are held accountable to nothing.

 

 

 

 

All of them indeed! Hillary is no different from other career politicians . Name me one who doesn't lie and always says what he/she means. Bernie's probably the closest but let's face it, they are all politicians and they are going to look out for themselves.

I belittled you ? After you called me out for ' searching for truth on an internet chit chat board " ? But it was me that belittled you ? No one has to agree with me . I think she lied . IF YOU DONT THINK SHE LIED QUIT BEATING AROUND THE FREAKING BUSH AND GROW A PAIR AND SAY SO -- Then I'll belittle you . In my best " you cant handle the truth scream" .

Thanks SF for at least answering the question. Thank You .

I'm not a Hillary supporter in any way shape or form. Under no circumstances would I ever vote for her. Did she lie? Not very familiar with it, but she's a politician so yeah I'm going to assume she did. Does that make her any worse than every other politician we have today? Nope. They all lie 24/7. If I'm holding that against her, I have to hold it against everyone else and that leaves no options. So I just assume they're all untrustworthy, because they are, and go from there.

Just my opinion but lying to grieving parents rules you out for president . Especially .. especially if you hid the truth for political gain. And I dont think every politician lies 24/7 .

Thats part of what makes this thread interesting to me , its why I ask .. What kind of lies will voters accept from their candidates . And from this thread it appears several dont care if she lied to parents of the 4 dead Americans . Or they don't care to research the matter .

I don't think Hillary "lied." Then again, I don't think that Bush-Cheney-Powell "lied" either in making the case to go after Saddam for WMDs. You act on the info that comes your way, and sometimes that info turns out to be not credible, incomplete or evolving.

 

The larger issue here is that Manitoudan, and many, many others, can't deal with the prospect that Hillary Clinton might well win the presidency 52 weeks from today. Don't like that? Then make sure that the GOP nominates another Ronald Reagan. Good luck with that one.

I don't think Hillary "lied." Then again, I don't think that Bush-Cheney-Powell "lied" either in making the case to go after Saddam for WMDs. You act on the info that comes your way, and sometimes that info turns out to be not credible, incomplete or evolving.

 

The larger issue here is that Manitoudan, and many, many others, can't deal with the prospect that Hillary Clinton might well win the presidency 52 weeks from today. Don't like that? Then make sure that the GOP nominates another Ronald Reagan. Good luck with that one.

 

 

 

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THIS.

 

And , to add to that, if Reagan was alive today and in his prime, he would be thought of about as well as Jeb. He would get about 10% of the Republican vote in today's crazy Republican party. Reagan would be way too moderate.

Ok I'll be just fine . My lot in life doesnt change every 4 or 8 years with the election of various politicians . I wonder if we fact checked Mr TTP on that claim he doesnt think Bush Chaney lied either what we would discover . LOL .

 

All you guys can see is party party party , while the nation sinks into despair .

I don't think Hillary "lied." Then again, I don't think that Bush-Cheney-Powell "lied" either in making the case to go after Saddam for WMDs. You act on the info that comes your way, and sometimes that info turns out to be not credible, incomplete or evolving.

 

The larger issue here is that Manitoudan, and many, many others, can't deal with the prospect that Hillary Clinton might well win the presidency 52 weeks from today. Don't like that? Then make sure that the GOP nominates another Ronald Reagan. Good luck with that one.

 

Correct on all accounts, IMHO.

Ok I'll be just fine . My lot in life doesnt change every 4 or 8 years with the election of various politicians . I wonder if we fact checked Mr TTP on that claim he doesnt think Bush Chaney lied either what we would discover . LOL .

 

All you guys can see is party party party , while the nation sinks into despair .

 

Dan, what were you hoping to achieve here, other than a cheap "gotcha"?

And as a (fairly) relevant aside, are there any parallels between this and the Pat Tillman affair?