I've seen both teams play this year. Scott's goalie does have a short fuse and Montgomery Co. has several players who do have a tendency to bring out the worst in some players, not a good combination. IMO, a red card only happens when the ref's let things get out of hand from the start. There has to be two participants with back and forth agitation going on. That being said, 2 red cards probably could/should of been given out. Sounds like from the comments in the thread the penalty's were one sided. Where were the ref's from? When you're not in control you're asking for it, from the players, coaches and fans.

I think the ref's might have been brought in from Mt. Sterling. :confused:

Nope. He is local. Agreed if the coaches were getting on the goalie the CR should have addressed it. However not uncommon for a coach to chat with an opposing player when a foul or two is endangering their players. Should be addressed by the CR.

I think the ref's might have been brought in from Mt. Sterling. :confused:

 

Home cookin' smells so good from there!

Nope. He is local. Agreed if the coaches were getting on the goalie the CR should have addressed it. However not uncommon for a coach to chat with an opposing player when a foul or two is endangering their players. Should be addressed by the CR.

 

Chatting and badgering are two different things.

Sarcasm Sheldon

I first would like to say that I know nothing about soccer and will not pretend to know anything. My son plays football so I usually just read the football posts. That said, my son wanted to go to this game so I drove him and a few others and I decided to stay and watch instead of driving back and forth. I peeked over here in the soccer forum since I figured there would be some talk of what happened at this game. Having read a few of the posts I couldn't help but sign on and weigh in. First post ever so please go easy.

 

The first half of this game was actually very exciting. I was amazed at how quickly the boys on both teams could move the ball and a few had some amazing foot skills. There was really not a whole lot to talk about, no scoring, no ugliness, just a good fast paced game.

 

Then the second half started and suddenly things were very different. I noticed right away that the bench of Montgomery County were saying things to the Scott goalie (Scott goalie was now at the other end of the field right in front of their bench). Then there was a rough play or 2 between the goalie and a Montgomery County player but honestly they both had a shot at the ball and both went after it. For whatever reason the referee gave the Scott goalie a yellow on one of those plays(which my son later told me was a caution). Not sure what the goalie did to get a yellow card but who am I to say. I could now hear the coaches from Montgomery County jawing at the Scott goalie. It really surprised me that a Coach would jaw at a kid but I thought, oh well, maybe this is how soccer is played. The Scott goalie even seemed to ask the referee on several occasions about the comments being said to him and the referee did nothing. This surprised me too since I could hear the Montgomery County coach from the bleachers. Not sure what he was saying but there was no doubt who he was yelling at. As the game went on the opposing coach never let up as he continued barking and yelling at the Scott goalie. I've just never seen a coach jaw with a player.......in any high school sport. Seems odd and wrong to me. So then the referee pulls out a red card and throws the Scott goalie out of the game. At the time I had no clue why the referee would do that but my son later told me that the Scott goalie must have done or said something to get a 2nd yellow which means an ejection. I'm guessing he said something since I didn't actually see him do anything wrong.

 

My apologies for the long winded post but it just seems to me that everyone is really coming down hard on a kid that seemed to be provoked by adults. I do think the goalie's reaction was rather animated but who is really accountable here?? if the goalie did something to earn an ejection then fine.......I don't see a problem with that. But where is the accountability for the adult coaches who seem to be provoking it. And what about the referee who seemed to ignore what appeared to be repeated requests from the Scott goalie to stop the nonsense on the opposing sideline? Is this normal in soccer? I think I honestly find more fault in the opposing coaches for their actions and the referee for his inaction. If you push anyone far enough....sooner or later you will get a response. Unfortunately for the young man playing goalie his response eliminated him from the game. That said.....none of it seemed right. Especially from the adults coaching and officiating the game.

 

Just one non-soccer fan's opinion.

 

I was at the game and if I was to summarize what happened it would go something like this... I do know the Scott goalie was taunted by the entire bench who felt the need to stand up off the to the end of the field. There were probably 2 coaches along the group of players as well. The goalie and a few field players mentioned this to the ref but nothing was done. They antagonized the goalie the entire game. I think his reaction was just built up frustration over time and while I agree it was completely inappropriate, he was egged on the entire game up until this point and I think the ref should have handled the situation differently before it got to this point.

Soccer threads.

 

Gotta love 'em.:thumb:

This has to be a carry over from last year's regional game between these two teams. I remember Scott being the bully and it completely threw MoCo off their game. They started playing the man and not the ball and were frustrated/angry the whole game about how Scott was behaving and what they were getting away with. It was clear that when the game ended, MoCo had an axe to grind and it was personal. Not saying its right at all if it happened, just trying to give my opinion on why it maybe did happen.

Right or wrong, Seay is a darned good goalie and it's a shame that this happened.

Right or wrong, Arron Hernandez is (was) a darn good tight end and…

 

I wasn't at the Scott/MOCO game so have no way of knowing how this red card transpired, not accusing the Scott keeper of doing anything wrong.

My only point is if any player does something wrong, his or her talent as a player should have nothing to do with it being ok.

Right or wrong, Arron Hernandez is (was) a darn good tight end and…

 

I wasn't at the Scott/MOCO game so have no way of knowing how this red card transpired, not accusing the Scott keeper of doing anything wrong.

My only point is if any player does something wrong, his or her talent as a player should have nothing to do with it being ok.

 

Touché. I wasn't clear on my context. Basically, I tried to say that it's a shame that a great talent suffered an unfortunate consequence of personal conduct. He is a great goalie but a large part of the game is keeping composure.

Right or wrong, Arron Hernandez is (was) a darn good tight end and…

I wasn't at the Scott/MOCO game so have no way of knowing how this red card transpired, not accusing the Scott keeper of doing anything wrong.

My only point is if any player does something wrong, his or her talent as a player should have nothing to do with it being ok.

 

Wow.....your first response was to call me a liar and now you've compared the situation to a man accused of unspeakable acts. You sir......have some issues.

 

I think I will just stay away from soccer and stick with football.

Didn't call anyone a liar.

Did not compare the two situations.

Simply making one point.

 

Suggest you re-read the post.

"I wasn't at the Scott/MOCO game so have no way of knowing how this red card transpired, not accusing the Scott keeper of doing anything wrong.

My only point is if any player does something wrong, his or her talent as a player should have nothing to do with it being ok."

IMO, a red card only happens when the ref's let things get out of hand from the start.

Your opinion is wrong. Plenty of red cards are given when players lose their cool or can't realize they are in the wrong.

 

Refs can let things get out of hand and results could be reds but that is most certainly not even close to always the case.