Pre Season Rankings Out

[rscott43]

The first ranking by KVCA is out. A bit surprised to see Assumption at the top instead of ND or SHA. Overall, I think we will see shuffling of the top 4 throughout the year and the eventual state champ will come from these top four. Based on history, that's not a hard prediction really. Any other insights, surprises, over ranking, under rankings, or omissions?

[Sandman32]

1. Assumption (9)

2. Notre Dame (5)

3. Mercy Academy (5)

4. Sacred Heart (2)

5. Henry Clay

6. Ryle

7. Paul Laurence Dunbar

8. St. Henry District

9. Cooper

10. McCracken County

11. Oldham County

12. Tates Creek

13. North Oldham

14. Christian Academy-Louisville

15. Allen Central

16. Apollo

17. DuPont Manual

18. Butler

19. Central Hardin

20. Newport Central Catholic

21. Holy Cross (Louisville)

22. Beechwood

23. Scott

24. Owensboro Catholic

25. Male

 

Interesting that Assumption is ahead of NDA, St Henry's below Ryle and Dunbar, and Beechwood and NCC are ahead of Scott. Not sure I see those that way but hey, for a preseason poll its pretty good.

[vblover]

Early season could be interesting for NDA with Morgan Hentz gone for USA Volleyball right up until the start of the season. I believe she returns Aug 16th or 17th and they open with Scott on the 18th. They play KY pre-season #4 , #9 and #23 , and OH pre-season #1 all in the first two weeks of the regular season. Not sure what Buck has planned to work her back in, but there might not be a lot of time.

[dallaslaredo]

1. Assumption (9)

2. Notre Dame (5)

3. Mercy Academy (5)

4. Sacred Heart (2)

5. Henry Clay

6. Ryle

7. Paul Laurence Dunbar

8. St. Henry District

9. Cooper

10. McCracken County

11. Oldham County

12. Tates Creek

13. North Oldham

14. Christian Academy-Louisville

15. Allen Central

16. Apollo

17. DuPont Manual

18. Butler

19. Central Hardin

20. Newport Central Catholic

21. Holy Cross (Louisville)

22. Beechwood

23. Scott

24. Owensboro Catholic

25. Male

 

Scott should be about 10 spots higher.

Cooper should be about 10 spots lower - who's setting?

PLD should be about 10 spots lower - they graduated too much

Beechwood shouldn't be in Top 25

Highlands or Boone County probably should be.

[NKYVB]

Scott should be about 10 spots higher.

Cooper should be about 10 spots lower - who's setting?

PLD should be about 10 spots lower - they graduated too much

Beechwood shouldn't be in Top 25

Highlands or Boone County probably should be.

 

Wrong.

Scott is in a decent spot. They Lost to Butler who lost to Ryle. All they have is Franxman and Tapp, who are good hitters, but won't be able to carry the load against good teams as we saw in BGSG. Cooper still has more talent without a decent setter because they have people to terminate. No, they won't beat the teams listed above them, partly because their coaches don't know their boobs from their butt, but the team won't be that bad, especially since they just added Nicole Bruce, a senior transfer from Conner, who was their best player, and Morgan Kelly, a freshman. PLD still has Leah Edmond, who can pretty much hit over any block you give her. Beechwood still has their core group back, which includes setter Gabby Ogle and libero Maggie Stuempel.

 

The fact of the matter is, most schools are going through a rebuilding year. Teams are testing different lineups, giving new players chances on the court and trying to find a team that meshes. Give it a couple weeks and I bet this pre-season ranking may be a fairly decent representation of the state.

[dallaslaredo]

Wrong. Scott is in a decent spot. They Lost to Butler who lost to Ryle. All they have is Franxman and Tapp, who are good hitters, but won't be able to carry the load against good teams as we saw in BGSG.

 

Scott has more than that.

 

Cooper still has more talent without a decent setter because they have people to terminate.

 

Right - so who is going to get them the ball?

 

Beechwood still has their core group back, which includes setter Gabby Ogle and libero Maggie Stuempel.

 

and doesn't include the biggest piece of that core, who bolted for a different school

 

The fact of the matter is, most schools are going through a rebuilding year.

 

As you would say..wrong. Teams like Scott, Ryle, St. Henry, Bishop Brossart, Notre Dame, Highlands, Pendelton County, and Boone County are full of Seniors and built to win now.

[Crosley]

It should be a good season. Luckily they all play each in NKY, so the girls will decide it for themselves.

 

However, on the girl at Beechwood that "bolted for another school", it is true she has left. However, she was only there for a cup of coffee, and no one ever thought she was serious about staying. It's hard to replace that kind of height, but life moves on. She's been replaced. And Beechwood only lost one senior last year, which is what I think volleyblogger meant.

 

Anyway, does it really matter. NDA, St. Henry, and Ryle will do well as they always do. I saw Cooper and Scott at the Bluegrass Games. They both looked very good, as did NCC. Highlands and Boone will be solid, too. From what I remember, Highlands has a lot of upperclassmen. All of these teams respect each other, so we should see some good games.

[dallaslaredo]

Early season could be interesting for NDA with Morgan Hentz gone for USA Volleyball right up until the start of the season. I believe she returns Aug 16th or 17th and they open with Scott on the 18th. They play KY pre-season #4 , #9 and #23 , and OH pre-season #1 all in the first two weeks of the regular season. Not sure what Buck has planned to work her back in, but there might not be a lot of time.

 

Scott has never beaten ND, and I don't see it happening this year. Before 2012, ND and Scott were in the same region. Region 10 was formed in 2003, but Scott didn't move there until 2012, replacing Newport Central who was moved to the 9th.

 

I saw on website that Newport Central is the only team ever from the 10th to beat ND, and they only did it once in a tournament years ago.

 

But I will give kudos to Scott and Campbell County for continuing to schedule ND even though they are in a different region.

 

And will give a big thumbs-down to Highlands and Newport Central for NOT scheduling ND, even though they are in the same region, and play each other in every other sport across the board.

[NKYVB]

Scott has more than that.

 

 

 

Right - so who is going to get them the ball?

 

 

 

and doesn't include the biggest piece of that core, who bolted for a different school

 

 

 

As you would say..wrong. Teams like Scott, Ryle, St. Henry, Bishop Brossart, Notre Dame, Highlands, Pendelton County, and Boone County are full of Seniors and built to win now.

 

Scott doesn't set anyone but Franxman and Tapp. Their middles are slow and vertically challenged. You're going to need effective middles to challenge big teams and they just don't have it.

 

Cooper's setters are Carlie Wise and Madi Hollis, who both play on NKJV 2 teams. Wise was the freshman setter last year and Hollis barely got JV playing time last year but I don't think she was setting.

 

I don't think Belle Morgan is a huge loss. Beechwood seems to have filled that spot fairly well.

 

I don't know why you brought Pendleton Co., Brossart, Highlands and Boone into the discussion... they are certainly not "built to win" against anyone previously mentioned.

[Guest]

Cooper still has more talent without a decent setter because they have people to terminate. No, they won't beat the teams listed above them, partly because their coaches don't know their boobs from their butt, but the team won't be that bad, especially since they just added Nicole Bruce, a senior transfer from Conner, who was their best player, and Morgan Kelly.

 

Conner losing Nicole Bruce was definitely a big loss for them but she is replaced by Lauryn Watts who definitely has athletic talent. I wouldn't underestimate Conner this season either. They only lost one other player from their team from last season and Conner beat Beechwood, Boone County and Highlands in games last season.

[Lawnboy13]

Scott has never beaten ND, and I don't see it happening this year. Before 2012, ND and Scott were in the same region. Region 10 was formed in 2003, but Scott didn't move there until 2012, replacing Newport Central who was moved to the 9th.

 

I saw on website that Newport Central is the only team ever from the 10th to beat ND, and they only did it once in a tournament years ago.

 

But I will give kudos to Scott and Campbell County for continuing to schedule ND even though they are in a different region.

 

And will give a big thumbs-down to Highlands and Newport Catholic for NOT scheduling ND, even though they are in the same region, and play each other in every other sport across the board.

 

They're waiting for the Regionals to "shock the world". :lol2:

 

Please for my sake, refer to them as Newport Catholic, I can't stand that "Central" addition to the name. I've felt like that since my Senior year when the girls arrived and they changed the name.

[AllenR]

They're waiting for the Regionals to "shock the world". :lol2:

 

Please for my sake, refer to them as Newport Catholic, I can't stand that "Central" addition to the name. I've felt like that since my Senior year when the girls arrived and they changed the name.

 

If we won the lottery, I wonder how big of a donation it would take to drop the "central".

[Sandman32]

Carlie Wise at Cooper has nice hands but was a little slow getting to errant balls in the past. I thought last club seasons she made some strides at fixing that. If Cooper can pass effectively she will do a good job at setter. For some reason I didn't get a change to see Hollis play much last club season, so I can't speak on her, other than to say that in HS any kid playing club has a leg up on those who don't. Cooper has a nice bunch of hitters and running a 6-2 might just be what the doctor ordered, especially if the coach uses it to teach the kids during the spots in the rotation when their not in.

[EQUUS GREVYI]

It's neither Highlands nor NCC that won't schedule Notre Dame, it's the other way around. Notre Dame is required to play both Scott and Campbell County for the conference.

[dallaslaredo]

The fact of the matter is, most schools are going through a rebuilding year.

 

Teams like Scott, Ryle, St. Henry, Bishop Brossart, Notre Dame, Highlands, Pendelton County, and Boone County are full of Seniors and built to win now.

 

I don't know why you brought Pendleton Co., Brossart, Highlands and Boone into the discussion... they are certainly not "built to win" against anyone previously mentioned.

 

My point is, not every team is rebuilding - for many, this is the year to do something because they will lose a lot next year. And my bold prediction is - Highlands and Boone County will beat some teams this year that they aren't "supposed" to beat.