June 25, 201511 yr A larger drain would be having those enrollees consuming healthcare resources with no matching FMAP dollars. Please show your math on that one. Hospitals would either just write off the costs or increase the cost for services, much like they are doing now, to offset the decrease in revenue.
June 26, 201511 yr He was helping out his old GOP pals in Congress. If he'd turned it back to them, there'd be an all-out panic over how that vote to fix the law would go down. What is amazing to me that IF Obamacare would have been struck down (as it probably should have been), we would have had a law passed without one Republican vote that is maybe the most poorly worded legislation ever that had its architect say that it could only be passed by lying to the idiot masses (yes, Gruber repeated this many times)...and the press would have said its all the Republicans' fault...and it is up to the Republicans to fix the mess or its their problem. How screwed up is that??
June 26, 201511 yr Bottom line, more Americans have affordable Health Care than ever before. Several Republican and Democratic Presidents have never been able to do what Obama has done for making it affordable for all. I had a family member that had pre existing conditions that would be much worse off health wise, if not dead, without this law. She has not been on welfare and worked her rear off her whole life, so this has been good for her and many like her. I could care less if it costs me or you more, if it is saving lives. So those complaining and whining does fall on many many deaf ears. Again, I don't know how much it will cost us as a country and I really don't care, if it saves lives.
June 26, 201511 yr The old system had its flaws and there are some good features in Obamacare (the pre-existing conditions is definitely one of them) but there were far better alternatives to the overall mess that is Obamacare...and it will only get worse as it is fully implemented without the "temporary fixes". It does accomplish the main thing Obama wanted though...more government control of our lives...
June 26, 201511 yr Bottom line, more Americans have affordable Health Care than ever before. Several Republican and Democratic Presidents have never been able to do what Obama has done for making it affordable for all. I had a family member that had pre existing conditions that would be much worse off health wise, if not dead, without this law. She has not been on welfare and worked her rear off her whole life, so this has been good for her and many like her. I could care less if it costs me or you more, if it is saving lives. So those complaining and whining does fall on many many deaf ears. Again, I don't know how much it will cost us as a country and I really don't care, if it saves lives. What is in bold is simply not true. It is not affordable nor does it have reasonable deductibles. I love the pre-existing conditions clause. Most of the rest of the law is crap.
June 26, 201511 yr What is in bold is simply not true. It is not affordable nor does it have reasonable deductibles. I love the pre-existing conditions clause. Most of the rest of the law is crap. Not sure what you mean by your bolded. More people do have health care, now if you think it is not affordable for them, fine, but people are signing up and have been since the site was fixed. If you mean our government can't afford, it is who you want to listen to. I am not smart enough to figure out the numbers, but either way, as I said, the dollar cost doesn't matter to me.
June 26, 201511 yr I know that Republicans want to repeal the law, which won't happen under this President. They have, since 2010, had the time and opportunity to put another plan on the President's desk. They have not done that, mostly because they can't agree on what it should look like. The same problem we have had for the last 40 years with Presidents and Congress from both parties. Like it or not, Obama got something passed, those in Congress need to put a plan together that is better (and there might be one) or just move on. Just saying that you will repeal it carries no weight, just rhetoric.
June 26, 201511 yr Please show your math on that one. Hospitals would either just write off the costs or increase the cost for services, much like they are doing now, to offset the decrease in revenue. Hospitals very rarely just write it off. Taxpayers or insurance carriers pay for it somewhere. I don't see how this is a good thing.
June 26, 201511 yr I love the pre-existing conditions clause. Most of the rest of the law is crap. If there had been no ACA, the GOP never would have addressed pre-existing conditions on their own.
June 26, 201511 yr Not sure what you mean by your bolded. More people do have health care, now if you think it is not affordable for them, fine, but people are signing up and have been since the site was fixed. If you mean our government can't afford, it is who you want to listen to. I am not smart enough to figure out the numbers, but either way, as I said, the dollar cost doesn't matter to me. I said what I meant. The rates are not affordable and the deductibles and out of pocket are ridiculous. For most of those bronze and silver plans, you would do just as well not having insurance. For those of us who are not independently wealthy, the dollar cost matters.
June 26, 201511 yr I know that Republicans want to repeal the law, which won't happen under this President. They have, since 2010, had the time and opportunity to put another plan on the President's desk. They have not done that, mostly because they can't agree on what it should look like. The same problem we have had for the last 40 years with Presidents and Congress from both parties. Like it or not, Obama got something passed, those in Congress need to put a plan together that is better (and there might be one) or just move on. Just saying that you will repeal it carries no weight, just rhetoric. No other plan was put on the POTUS desk thanks to Harry Reid. Pesky facts get in the way again.
June 26, 201511 yr If there had been no ACA, the GOP never would have addressed pre-existing conditions on their own. You don't know that. More Leftist drivel from you.
June 26, 201511 yr No other plan was put on the POTUS desk thanks to Harry Reid. Pesky facts get in the way again. Absolute truth!
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