Prayers to everyone involved. Nobody should ever have to bury their children.

Nervous to hear what the sad news is coming out today :/. Hoping and praying it's not what I think it is. No parent should ever EVER have to bury their child.

Instead of building several Taj Mahal libraries, they should have spent the tax revenue more wisely on roads.

 

I am honestly asking because I don't know.....how much of that is a County decision? The state has laid/is laying out big $$ for 237 right now, and I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new interchange (?) at 237 and 18, but who decides what, where and when these things get done?? Because if there is someone to lobby/call/beg, I ain't above doing those things to get Camp Ernst straightened/flattened/FIXED!!

I'm not likely the sound of this.

 

There was an appeal to people who have flight benefits on Delta to give one a pass to one of the two boys sister so she can get home, I think she was in NYC, and it was said "so so can get home in time".

 

I pray the in time part isn't what would be the first thing that comes to mind.

So sad.

 

Prayers to all involved.

I am honestly asking because I don't know.....how much of that is a County decision? The state has laid/is laying out big $$ for 237 right now, and I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new interchange (?) at 237 and 18, but who decides what, where and when these things get done?? Because if there is someone to lobby/call/beg, I ain't above doing those things to get Camp Ernst straightened/flattened/FIXED!!

Generally how it works for projects such as this, the state is divided in to multiple Area Development Districts. These districts have a transportation committee comprised of the various cities and counties throughout said district. They go through multiple ranking systems depending upon the cost and needs, and those rankings are ultimately sent to Frankfort. It is an attempt to remove a political process from a political process. Projects that are slated for funding by the legislature never come back in the order for which they were submitted, and tragic stories such as this one are more apt to prompt immediate action than the traditional route. Even if it comes back as an accepted project with the released HWY plan, projects go unfunded. People would be shocked at the amount of unfunded projects on the books with the state. From conceptual thought of a road to it actually being finished, it is 50-100 years. No joke. I've heard that several times. The state will tell you once a project gets on their list, the average time it takes to complete is 10 years.

Wow...that is some enlightening (and depressing) information right there. Thanks!!

Wow...that is some enlightening (and depressing) information right there. Thanks!!

 

A lot more goes in to a project than most realize. Once a project gets rolling with funding, the funding is spread amongst Design, ROW (right-of-way) Acquisition, Utilities, and Construction. The longest phase is the ROW Acquisition by far. The state may appropriate money for design in year 1. You go through RFPs and other stuff, it ends up taking at least a year for design on a major job. So that bleeds over to the second year, so one is not eligible to do the ROW/easement acquisition until year 3. And as I said, that part can spread over the course of a few years. Once that is complete projects normally get going from there, assuming they appropriate the money that FY.

So, if my grandkids go to Cooper, it could be done by then??

 

I wonder how many years 237 was "on the books" - and if Camp Ernst wouldn't have been money better spent?? We have seen many, many crashes on that stretch, but none as bad as this. Hopefully, we won't see another like it any time soon.

So, if my grandkids go to Cooper, it could be done by then??

 

I wonder how many years 237 was "on the books" - and if Camp Ernst wouldn't have been money better spent?? We have seen many, many crashes on that stretch, but none as bad as this. Hopefully, we won't see another like it any time soon.

Projects by a school get moved up the list quickly, and some projects that follow a tragedy bypass the entire process.

Rumor mill still grinding them out. Heard Travis had passed but that may not be accurate.

Edited May 7, 201511 yr by PigSkin Junkie

Rumor mill still grinding them out. Heard Travis had passed but that may not be accurate.

 

That is not true from what I have heard, just that he is not doing very well

From all I'm hearing he is not doing very well at all and today may be a very tough day for everyone if a decision is going to be made...:(

Havent been out to Cooper in a few years, but I have a question. Why is it so bad of an intersection? Never seemed like an issue to me.

The intersection of Camp Ernst and Longbranch is awful, but Camp Ernst Road is bad all on its own. Each of the three subdivisions at and past the lake have blind spots to the left or right or both. Traffic goes ridiculously fast, ignoring the speed limit altogether. Every road around Cooper is hilly AND curvy, and when 400+ kids get out of school or are rushing to school at the same time, it's death-defying. This accident happened in a spot where I have been passed by more than one Jag in a hurry, oblivious to the double yellow line and oncoming cars. I've seen no less than six bad wrecks in the past two years, but this may be the first fatality and hopefully, that will open some eyes before there is another.