I think Colby Brown from Rockcastle has hit somewhere in the mid 90's at times. If a High School kid can hit 85 he will win a lot of games for you. If he gets any higher than that, your looking at one heckuva pitcher.

 

Not a chance he threw mid 90s. I faced the kid several times and I would say he probably tops out at about 90 maybe 91 on a great day. His game speed is probably 87-88, which is very good for high school.

 

I think in high school, the success of the fastball is directly correlated with the speed of the off-speed pitches. If someone throws 86-87 with not much of an off-speed pitch, batters can sit dead-red on the heater and will eventually put the ball in play.

Speed is so overated in high school baseball! Throw strikes, mix speeds and have a decent fast ball to fall back on occasionally (80t). Ttat's all it takes.

As far as velocity goes, anything in the 80's is smokin' it in high school baseball!

Not a chance he threw mid 90s. I faced the kid several times and I would say he probably tops out at about 90 maybe 91 on a great day. His game speed is probably 87-88, which is very good for high school.

 

I think in high school, the success of the fastball is directly correlated with the speed of the off-speed pitches. If someone throws 86-87 with not much of an off-speed pitch, batters can sit dead-red on the heater and will eventually put the ball in play.

I know he doesn't hit 90 consistently. I just heard when they were at Clay County last year that he hit 95 when they were in Florida. I don't know if it's true or not, just going by what I hear. I agree with everything you just stated. The fastball isn't everything.

On the other hand. Right wrong or indifferent, if you don't throw at least 85, A D-1 school is not going to give you a look.

On the other hand. Right wrong or indifferent, if you don't throw at least 85, A D-1 school is not going to give you a look.

From what I have seen , if you are a righthander you are exactly right. But an up an coming D1 powerhouse programs pitching coach told me his philosophy on pitchers.

 

The one great thing that I have seen this year is the success that UK is having right now with Greg Dombrowski. In a recent article in the Lexington Herald coach Cohen stated that this years staff ace only throws around the 81-82 range. That just goes to show that the velocity deal that many of these D1 coaches live and die by is a bunch of balony. UK pitching coach Gary Henderson told me personally that what he looked for in a pitcher was A) the ability to throw strikes B) ball movement C) velocity. Maybe the reason why UK is having a lot of success right now is because they are just a little smarter than a bunch of some of these other D1 programs that are constantly among the cellar dwellars, (ie, Morehead State), who only worry about what someone throws on a radar gun in determining if a kid can pitch or not. I will also say that the philosophy that I just told about is also almost a word for word anology by coach Brad Shelton at Cumberland. I think these two coaches are more concerned about putting pitchers on their rosters that know how to win. Both of these two programs seem to be a cut above some of the other programs in the state. They must be doing something right based on the success of each of their perspective programs.

Speed is so overated in high school baseball! Throw strikes, mix speeds and have a decent fast ball to fall back on occasionally (80t). Ttat's all it takes.

As far as velocity goes, anything in the 80's is smokin' it in high school baseball!

I agree with what you are saying.You would be surprised on the very small number of pitchers there are out there that can hit 80 MPH let alone 85. There are not as many of them out there that you think. I have gunned a bunch of pitchers so far this year with some pretty good programs and so far they have been few and far between.

80+ is solid.

 

88+ could get you drafted.

 

To put things in persective for 9th region / NKY fans. Rob Harmon (ace of '02 state championship Cov Cath team) was never clocked at 90 MPH, yet he "brought the heat".

There is a lot of mis conception on how fast a kids fastballs really are. To me it always seems like someone will gun a kids velocity or hear about it and get on here and add about 3-4 miles an hour on it. I hate that.

There is a lot of mis conception on how fast a kids fastballs really are. To me it always seems like someone will gun a kids velocity or hear about it and get on here and add about 3-4 miles an hour on it. I hate that.

 

 

ding ding ding...You are absolutely correct. And Johnny, tell him what he's wo!!!

80+ is solid.

 

88+ could get you drafted.

 

To put things in persective for 9th region / NKY fans. Rob Harmon (ace of '02 state championship Cov Cath team) was never clocked at 90 MPH, yet he "brought the heat".

 

How fast did I think his name was Stephen Muck throw for CovCath? I know I played against him in 2004 and he threw harder than anyone I have ever batted against!

How fast did I think his name was Stephen Muck throw for CovCath? I know I played against him in 2004 and he threw harder than anyone I have ever batted against!

 

I believe Muck has been clocked at 92.

 

He consistently threw in the mid-to-upper 80's, though.

I believe Muck has been clocked at 92.

 

He consistently threw in the mid-to-upper 80's, though.

 

92 at WKU but never in high school. I'd guess he was a low to mid 80s thrower then.

 

He does run a 4.34 40 though. I sweat.

92 at WKU but never in high school. I'd guess he was a low to mid 80s thrower then.

 

He does run a 4.34 40 though. I sweat.

 

He had to be in the higher part of the 80's because I have faced alot of fast throwing pitchers before but he threw so much harder than any one else I ever faced!!!

I believe Muck has been clocked at 92.

 

He consistently threw in the mid-to-upper 80's, though.

 

Thanks that is what I thought, because as I just said he threw harder than anyone I had ever faced before!!!

 

However though it still wasn't hard enough because we (Ludlow) found away to beat him in the districts in 2004!!!! :dancingpa

 

(Sorry It was just to hard not to bring up)

 

Really what helped us out against him was that we had played against him a few times in knothole and he has just NEVER beat us before, so we were pretty confident going against him so that helped us out obviously!

 

I know though that Muck is a very good pitcher and that is why he is at WKU. And Im just wondering do you know how he is doing down there? And do you know if he is a starter there or a reliever?

I played on Brossart varsity from 1997 to 2000. We played good teams because this was in our years that we were stepping up the level of competition at Brossart. We played the likes of Dixie Hieghts (beat them), CovCath (beat them), Ryle (beat them), and Boone Co (never beat them). They all had good pitchers. The one team that we never beat whenever we played them was Harrison Co. We played them twice my junior year and they had a guy named Nuchy Varner (sp?). He was the one guy that we felt like we could not hit. I think he pitched high 80's with great off speed stuff. I felt like I should have tried to bunt every time against this guy. He had our number.