March 3, 201511 yr To listen to the Dems run out rep after rep out to claim some high ground makes me want to puke ... as if the president didnt change our entire health care system in a way that the American public didnt want . And bent rules like crazy to do it .
March 3, 201511 yr I think Netenyahu is showing what REAL leadership is. He is taking a huge political gamble in coming here but knows that his country's survival is somewhat dependent on the US not settling on a deal to let Iran have nukes just so Obama and Kerry can say they made a deal. Let's be honest. Obama has not been a friend of Israel. The US is but Obama is not. Even if Boehner has breached some protocol and ticked Obama off, he could have been the "bigger man" and welcomed an old ally. Sadly, he did not.
March 3, 201511 yr Getslow indicates the administration represents us as the people. When it comes to treaties with other countries - this representation is supposed to come with 'advice and consent' of the US Senate. Anyone recall the Senate approving a treaty with Iran in the last couple of years? My understanding is that Netanyahu wants the talks in preparation for any agreement cut off. If the state department is still in talks, then there is no agreement to present. Furthermore, it was Mr. Boehner, who is not a member of the Senate, that inserted himself into foreign relations on this occasion.
March 3, 201511 yr My understanding is that Netanyahu wants the talks in preparation for any agreement cut off. If the state department is still in talks, then there is no agreement to present. Furthermore, it was Mr. Boehner, who is not a member of the Senate, that inserted himself into foreign relations on this occasion. Branches of government are equal. There is no law that prohibits this being done. Does the executive branch let congress know about every foreign leader they meet with before hand ? The answer is no. To act like one branch deserves greater respect than another is a mockery of our system.
March 3, 201511 yr Author My understanding is that Netanyahu wants the talks in preparation for any agreement cut off. If the state department is still in talks, then there is no agreement to present. Furthermore, it was Mr. Boehner, who is not a member of the Senate, that inserted himself into foreign relations on this occasion. The debate is now in the open. It would remained in secret talks had this not happened. I am surprised Boehner did this given his usual lack of backbone. Daylight is the best antiseptic of politics (both domestic and international). Unfortunately, McConnell is not very good at forcing a discussion.
March 3, 201511 yr Furthermore it's obvious the adminsitration doesn't want him reelected. They claim to not want to choose sides by allowing him to visit. When in reality they created a false precedent in make believe land. Leaders close to election have visited through out our history. What the Adminsitration wanted to do was choose a side by not allowing a visit and with a fake vale of being impartial.
March 3, 201511 yr The debate is now in the open. It would remained in secret talks had this not happened. I am surprised Boehner did this given his usual lack of backbone. Daylight is the best antiseptic of politics (both domestic and international). Unfortunately, McConnell is not very good at forcing a discussion. Exactly the only reason the dialogue is in the open now is because the adminsitration was forced . To act like we would be having open discussions without it would be to ignore all past actions by this adminsitration.
March 3, 201511 yr Branches of government are equal. There is no law that prohibits this being done. Does the executive branch let congress know about every foreign leader they meet with before hand ? The answer is no. To act like one branch deserves greater respect than another is a mockery of our system. That's not what I said. And just because they are equal and have checks and balances against each other doesn't mean they have the same functions. U.S. v. Curtiss-Wright: "the very delicate, plenary and exclusive power of the President as the sole organ of the federal government in the field of international relations–a power which does not require as a basis for its exercise an act of Congress...." Forget the legality. I don't question the legality. I question the prudence. You think Obama makes us weak? What does our own government going behind each others' backs and sending mixed messages across the world do for our collective strength?
March 3, 201511 yr Furthermore it's obvious the adminsitration doesn't want him reelected. They claim to not want to choose sides by allowing him to visit. When in reality they created a false precedent in make believe land. Leaders close to election have visited through out our history. What the Adminsitration wanted to do was choose a side by not allowing a visit and with a fake vale of being impartial. Polls seem to be suggesting that a good number of Israelis may not want him re-elected either. Mr. Netanyahu's Likud is currently running neck and neck with the Zionist Union coalition.
March 3, 201511 yr Obama has done the most going behind everyones back since he has been in office. It's his way or the highway. I guess you think it's alright for Iran to have nukes after ten years?
March 3, 201511 yr Polls seem to be suggesting that a good number of Israelis may not want him re-elected either. Mr. Netanyahu's Likud is currently running neck and neck with the Zionist Union coalition. That is irrelevant to my statement. The adminsitration claimed a false precedence on why he should not be allowed to visit or speak. They chose a side by their false precedent .
March 3, 201511 yr That's not what I said. And just because they are equal and have checks and balances against each other doesn't mean they have the same functions. U.S. v. Curtiss-Wright: "the very delicate, plenary and exclusive power of the President as the sole organ of the federal government in the field of international relations–a power which does not require as a basis for its exercise an act of Congress...." Forget the legality. I don't question the legality. I question the prudence. You think Obama makes us weak? What does our own government going behind each others' backs and sending mixed messages across the world do for our collective strength? I'd say what makes us weak is our current handling of Iran and if congress belives they can influence the conservation by this action then I think it's healthy for democracy.
March 3, 201511 yr Obama has done the most going behind everyones back since he has been in office. It's his way or the highway. I guess you think it's alright for Iran to have nukes after ten years? I make no judgments on the prudence of those negotiations. I don't trust Iran or the ayatollahs and the agreement is almost certainly a poor one if those are the terms. I make judgments solely on the prudence of inviting Mr. Netanyahu to speak in this manner.
March 3, 201511 yr Yarmouth came across as a total idiot today . I've never seen his face drug out in the national media and boom -- today is the first time and he fires off something about Dick Chaney . I've tried calling his office all day and its been busy , now his VM is full and not accepting messages . He's taking a huge amount of fire for his hostile demeanor and choice of words .
March 3, 201511 yr Yarmouth came across as a total idiot today . I've never seen his face drug out in the national media and boom -- today is the first time and he fires off something about Dick Chaney . I've tried calling his office all day and its been busy , now his VM is full and not accepting messages . He's taking a huge amount of fire for his hostile demeanor and choice of words . I saw his comments a day ago. He's not a great fan of Mr. Netanyahu. Have a link to what he said today?
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