March 6, 201511 yr And are we seriously considering she beats Ray Rice? That is why I suggested 10 fights. I think Rice would win several of them.
March 6, 201511 yr We can agree to disagree. And when I say ten fights, I mean the same thing as two teams playing each other ten times. If you want to throw an injury matrix into it, that complicates everything and really isn't even worth discussing. Put it this way, I don't want any part of fighting her but I am saying if a healthy her fights a healthy me ten times she ain't winning all ten. Just messing with you Ru. I am impressed you would even consider stepping into the ring with her. Like someone said earlier, I value my arms too much to do that. I think where people are missing the boat here is mistaking strength for fighting ability...big difference. If you ever do set up a MMA match with her, I am sure a bunch of folks on BGP (me included) will pay some decent coin to watch!
March 6, 201511 yr I'd bet on Ray Rice. I wish Rousey was in that elevator with Rice instead of his drunk defenseless fiancé. The outcome would have been different for Rice...
March 6, 201511 yr And Rousey is 6" shorter and still 40+lbs lighter. If you guys really think she's whiping any athlete with throat much size difference you're all nuts. There comes a point where it just doesn't matter how good she is, it's not going to over come strength and size.I don't think you understand submissions. I'll use Rice for example, he has ZERO MMA experience and I don't think he was even a wrestler. Ronda has YEARS of training at an elite level. Any punch Rce tries to throw she is trained to avoid. Rice cannot keep the fight off the mat. Rice cannot keep his arm away. Rice must tap.
March 6, 201511 yr I think the point that most people are missing is that we are talking about random male athletes. NOT male MMA fighters. She might get lucky and catch a few of these in an arm bar but it's a whole different ball game when we are talking about her fighting a dude with MMA training.
March 6, 201511 yr I don't think you understand submissions. I'll use Rice for example, he has ZERO MMA experience and I don't think he was even a wrestler. Ronda has YEARS of training at an elite level. Any punch Rce tries to throw she is trained to avoid. Rice cannot keep the fight off the mat. Rice cannot keep his arm away. Rice must tap. I don't think you understand strength and power difference. There comes a point that it just won't matter how much training she has. When a man is that much bigger and stronger he's not losing. Yeah, maybe he would lose a few out of ten but the majority of the time she's getting bounced off the mat.
March 6, 201511 yr I don't think you understand strength and power difference. There comes a point that it just won't matter how much training she has. When a man is that much bigger and stronger he's not losing. Yeah, maybe he would lose a few out of ten but the majority of the time she's getting bounced off the mat.I understand very well. I wrestled for years and often rolled around with people a lot larger than me. I've also saw how easily I could take down bigger/stronger people who had zero experience. Throw in legs and go to town at that point. Serious question, have you done any MMA, wrestling, boxing, etc?
March 6, 201511 yr How would Bruce Lee have done against those 15 men? Does Ray Rice throttle him too? Bruce Lee weighed around a Buck Twenty Five.
March 6, 201511 yr I stand by my statement. You give any of them (well, maybe exclude Messi) a little training and she wouldn't beat a single one.
March 6, 201511 yr I stand by my statement. You give any of them (well' date=' maybe exclude Messi) a little training and she wouldn't beat a single one.[/quote'] Go back and look at the first UFCs...There were no weight classes and everyone was a trained fighter in some way. Royce Gracie just about the smallest guy there dominated much bigger fighters fight after fight. Its not as much about size as technique.
March 6, 201511 yr I understand very well. I wrestled for years and often rolled around with people a lot larger than me. I've also saw how easily I could take down bigger/stronger people who had zero experience. Throw in legs and go to town at that point. Serious question, have you done any MMA, wrestling, boxing, etc? Nope. Have you ever wrestled an NFL running back?
March 6, 201511 yr How would Bruce Lee have done against those 15 men? Does Ray Rice throttle him too? Bruce Lee weighed around a Buck Twenty Five. Bruce Lee at 5'7" and 135lbs: In a strictly martial arts fight, no. In a cage, anything goes, yes he throttles him.
March 6, 201511 yr I'm going to amend my statement and say that the runner (who I've never heard of) and Messi would probably lose. The other 13 would all take her. These guys are all world-class athletes. They aren't some average joes. They're bigger, they're stronger, and whether you want to believe it or not they're all as quick or quicker than she is. I see no way she gets close enough to even attempt to takedown the bigger guys (Woods, Manning, Curry, Brady). Give them even a little training and it's all but guaranteed IMO.
March 6, 201511 yr I'm going to amend my statement and say that the runner (who I've never heard of) and Messi would probably lose. The other 13 would all take her. These guys are all world-class athletes. They aren't some average joes. They're bigger, they're stronger, and whether you want to believe it or not they're all as quick or quicker than she is. I see no way she gets close enough to even attempt to takedown the bigger guys (Woods, Manning, Curry, Brady). Give them even a little training and it's all but guaranteed IMO. I agree with you usually Mustang but I could not disagree with you more on this one. Too bad we will never see it. None of those guys would ever get in the ring with her.
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