February 23, 201511 yr Author I've got the video. I'll attempt to post. It clearly should have been a violation IMO. If you have video, can I post it on my site? I've been dying to rip the refs to shreds on WKU's behalf. :lol2:
February 23, 201511 yr If you have video, can I post it on my site? I've been dying to rip the refs to shreds on WKU's behalf. :lol2: If that is the intent, if the shooter made the free throw the refs don't do anything. The pump fake does not negate him making the free throw and it counting.
February 23, 201511 yr Author If that is the intent, if the shooter made the free throw the refs don't do anything. The pump fake does not negate him making the free throw and it counting. If it's a violation it would absolutely wipe off the made free throw, right?
February 23, 201511 yr If it's a violation it would absolutely wipe off the made free throw, right? No. The pump fake has no impact on whether the free throw counts or not. There is no violation for a shooter who pump fakes. If he pump fakes and makes it, it still counts. The only impact is there is no lane violation if the shooter does a pump fake. So then you may ask why don't more people do it? The answer is there is nothing gained by pump faking. All it does is disrupt the shooter's own normal routine/rhythm. If you are the shooter, why would you do it? You gain absolutely nothing by doing the pump fake.
February 23, 201511 yr Author No. The pump fake has no impact on whether the free throw counts or not. There is no violation for a shooter who pump fakes. If he pump fakes and makes it, it still counts. The only impact is there is no lane violation if the shooter does a pump fake. So then you may ask why don't more people do it? The answer is there is nothing gained by pump faking. All it does is disrupt the shooter's own normal routine/rhythm. If you are the shooter, why would you do it? You gain absolutely nothing by doing the pump fake. So you are saying it is not a violation to fake a free throw attempt?
February 23, 201511 yr I watched that game and he definitely started his motion as if he was going to shoot the free throw then didn't shoot, and a bunch of players from both team jumped into the lane. Then on his second attempt he used a one motion shooting form completely different from the first. Coach Harper from WKU and his assistants were pretty upset over it and let the refs know about it. It was a tight game in the final seconds of the game. I don't know how they didn't call something. The TV guys felt the same way. But I've discovered one thing by reading these ref discussions and game situations on BGP.......there's a lot I don't know about officiating rules and I've been watch basketball for over 50 years, lol. I really appreciate Clyde and some of the other guys on here that explain officiating rules and regulations on BGP.
February 23, 201511 yr So you are saying it is not a violation to fake a free throw attempt? It is not a violation. If the shooter purposely pump fakes and then makes the free throw, the free throw counts and no action of any kind is taken by the refs. Again, I am not a ref so I could be wrong.
February 23, 201511 yr Author It is not a violation. If the shooter purposely pump fakes and then makes the free throw, the free throw counts and no action of any kind is taken by the refs. So you're telling me that a college player can walk up to the line and do a quick fake like he is taking a shot, then back away, pause for a few seconds and walk back up and take a shot?
February 23, 201511 yr Well ... maybe I am wrong. I just googled the NBA rules and it is a violation and the free throw would not count in the NBA. I am trying to find the college rule now. NBA Rule #9 - Free Throws c. The free throw shooter shall not purposely fake a free throw attempt. PENALTY: This is a violation by the shooter on all free throw attempts and a double violation should not be called if an opponent violates any free throw rules. If the free throw attempt is to remain in play, the opposing team shall inbound on either sideline at the free throw line extended. If the free throw attempt is not to remain in play, then play will continue from that point. See page 31 in the link below. https://turnernbahangtime.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/2014-15-nba-rule-book.pdf
February 23, 201511 yr Author Well ... maybe I am wrong. I just googled the NBA rules and it is a violation and the free throw would not count in the NBA. I am trying to find the college rule now. If this isn't a violation, I'm going to plead to every player in the nation to just start doing fakes at the free throw line (like ASA softball pitchers).
February 23, 201511 yr Here is a link to the NCAA rulebook. I am not going to download it to look through for the rule. Men's Basketball Rules of the Game | NCAA Home Page - NCAA.org Since it is a violation in the NBA, I am probably wrong on my posts above about it not being a violation in college. Sorry for the misinformation if it turns out I am wrong. The good news for you, if I am wrong and it is a violation, you have yourself a story.
February 23, 201511 yr It is a violation to fake a free throw. NCAA - Rule 8-Section 5 - Free Throws Section 5. Free Throw Requirements Art. 1. After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower: a. The free-thrower shall release the try within 10 seconds and in such a way that the ball enters the basket or touches the ring or flange before the free throw ends. b. The free-thrower shall not purposely fake a try nor shall the free-thrower’s teammates nor opponents purposely fake a violation. There you have it...
February 23, 201511 yr Author It is a violation to fake a free throw. NCAA - Rule 8-Section 5 - Free Throws Section 5. Free Throw Requirements Art. 1. After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower: a. The free-thrower shall release the try within 10 seconds and in such a way that the ball enters the basket or touches the ring or flange before the free throw ends. b. The free-thrower shall not purposely fake a try nor shall the free-thrower’s teammates nor opponents purposely fake a violation. There you have it... 100% violation then. WKU got hosed.
February 23, 201511 yr Author Hopefully we can see the video. It's really amazing that nothing was called.
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