Also, if you were a French male born between 1894 and 1897, there was a 26.3% likelihood that your life would be ended in The Great War. That's just over 1 out of 4.

 

Wow. I had heard WW1 killed so many young men that many women at that time did not marry simply to not enough men surviving the war so there was an imbalance in numbers of the sexes. I would guess that could have happened to Russia in WWII. Didn't Russia have extremely high fatalities due to WWII?

See if you can get the World Wars mini series on DVD. Very informative..

 

The video store near me sometimes has those. I think I mentioned the series about Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan and Ford how interesting that was. Hopefully they get this one too.

 

I also didn't realize that in WWII Hitler was initially allied with Stalin but when he got as far east as he could go he attacked Russia to continue his expansion.

 

So Germany and the Soviet Union did not declare war until German Forces had almost reached the border? Did not know that either.

Also, if you were a French male born between 1894 and 1897, there was a 26.3% likelihood that your life would be ended in The Great War. That's just over 1 out of 4.

 

This is one of the reasons I cringe at the reputation some have given France over their war record. They paid dearly in ww 1

Wow. I had heard WW1 killed so many young men that many women at that time did not marry simply to not enough men surviving the war so there was an imbalance in numbers of the sexes. I would guess that could have happened to Russia in WWII. Didn't Russia have extremely high fatalities due to WWII?

 

If there were differences it might have been the number of civilian deaths and Russian women who fought leading to more balance.

The video store near me sometimes has those. I think I mentioned the series about Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan and Ford how interesting that was. Hopefully they get this one too.

 

 

 

So Germany and the Soviet Union did not declare war until German Forces had almost reached the border? Did not know that either.

 

This one is similar with examinations of Hitler, Churchill, Mussolini, Patton, MacArthur and others during WWI, in the years between and in WWII. It was very interesting in that it was more about the men and their actions rather then the historical events themselves.

History had a great series of shows that chronicled the innovations of war that came about in WWI.

 

In their other great series on the World Wars I learned that Germany was actually a major factor in the Communist revolution in Russia. They bankrolled Lenin with the intention that when he stirred it up in Russia they would be forced to withdraw from WWI. They got that right.

 

That also resulted in the death of an entire royal family.

The video store near me sometimes has those. I think I mentioned the series about Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan and Ford how interesting that was. Hopefully they get this one too.

 

 

 

So Germany and the Soviet Union did not declare war until German Forces had almost reached the border? Did not know that either.

 

Hitler followed Napoleon's footsteps in underestimating the harshness of the Russian Winter.

Hitler followed Napoleon's footsteps in underestimating the harshness of the Russian Winter.

 

And the resilience of the Russian people.

I feel like WWI is sometimes forgotten about. Seems like more people focus on WWII, even though, as you said, WWI offered things on a scale that had never been seen before.

 

I believe this is due to the large number of veterans that many of us have known. I even met a veteran of the Pearl Harbor attack.

...plus it essentially set the table for that other big war 21 years later.

 

Not just the war, but the peace treaty that sought revenge on Germany for starting the war, when Austria-Hungary was the one who started the war. Plus a number peace treaty articles that gave the German people fodder to support Hitler's rearmament of Germany.

That also resulted in the death of an entire royal family.

 

I believe Eastern Europe had other monarchies at the time Russia occupied them. Were any other royal families killed? A guy I know is a descendent of nobility (not quite royalty but close enough) from Hungary. During the revolution of 1955 (I think 55), his family fled to Austria which was not under communist control. Even in Austria, they felt they were too close to the communist block and still feared their noble heritage could lead to assassination attempts so they asked the American Embassy in Vienna if they could come to the US. He is now an international attorney for the Army and specializes in the legal aspects of the Just War Theory. Very interesting guy. He goes back to Hungary periodically. I have asked him if he has looked into dual citizenship. He has considered it but not yet looked into it.

I believe this is due to the large number of veterans that many of us have known. I even met a veteran of the Pearl Harbor attack.

 

That and WWII is just easier to understand for me and I assume many others. The causes of it are much simpler than the causes of WWI. There was an joke (whatever you want to call it) on Facebook which compared the starting of WWI to a bar fight where each country was a person in the bar. It was absolutely hilarious and seemed very accurate per what I know about WWI.

I believe Eastern Europe had other monarchies at the time Russia occupied them. Were any other royal families killed? A guy I know is a descendent of nobility (not quite royalty but close enough) from Hungary. During the revolution of 1955 (I think 55), his family fled to Austria which was not under communist control. Even in Austria, they felt they were too close to the communist block and still feared their noble heritage could lead to assassination attempts so they asked the American Embassy in Vienna if they could come to the US. He is now an international attorney for the Army and specializes in the legal aspects of the Just War Theory. Very interesting guy. He goes back to Hungary periodically. I have asked him if he has looked into dual citizenship. He has considered it but not yet looked into it.

 

I was talking more about the Romanov family and how the release of Lenin (with the backing of the Germans) resulted in their deaths. Lenin's release did what Germany wanted, which was to pull Russia out of the war, but it stirred up an already unstable system of angry peasants who revolted against their government.

 

Am I advocating that the Czar was a perfect ruler? No, I am just arguing that the assassination of the entire (desposed) royal family in Yekaterinburg, Russia at the Ipatiev House on that fateful night on July 17, 1918 was the result of the German's financial backing of Lenin.

 

Nicholas II wanted to seek asylum in the United Kingdom, but this was turned down by George the V (who was his cousin) for fear that his presence might cause an uprising in the United Kingdom.

I was talking more about the Romanov family and how the release of Lenin (with the backing of the Germans) resulted in their deaths. Lenin's release did what Germany wanted, which was to pull Russia out of the war, but it stirred up an already unstable system of angry peasants who revolted against their government..

 

Oh I know, I just wanted if any other ruling royal or imperial families in areas controlled by the Soviets were killed.

 

Am I advocating that the Czar was a perfect ruler? No, I am just arguing that the assassination of the entire (desposed) royal family in Yekaterinburg, Russia at the Ipatiev House on that fateful night on July 17, 1918 was the result of the German's financial backing of Lenin..

 

I am guessing the Romanov family was not well liked by the German Kaiser so he probably didn't shed too many tears.

 

Nicholas II wanted to seek asylum in the United Kingdom, but this was turned down by George the V (who was his cousin) for fear that his presence might cause an uprising in the United Kingdom.

 

I am trying to think why the British people would care? Afraid of Russian influence on Great Britain? I wonder if France turned him down also?

Oh I know, I just wanted if any other ruling royal or imperial families in areas controlled by the Soviets were killed.

 

 

 

I am guessing the Romanov family was not well liked by the German Kaiser so he probably didn't shed too many tears.

 

 

 

I am trying to think why the British people would care? Afraid of Russian influence on Great Britain? I wonder if France turned him down also?

 

To my knowledge no other Dynasty was eliminated in that way.

 

Nicolas was also related to the Kaiser. All of the monarchies had some relation in their family trees. The Soviets executed the whole family so that they could not be restored ala France. The re where the Romanovs were imprisoned was about to be taken by the White Guard. No doubt this led to the decision to murder them all.