Several schools that have won state championships in the past have either merged with other schools, or split up into multiple schools. Who rightfully claims those championships?

 

I can think of 4 possible scenarios:

 

1. School A breaks up into 2 or more schools, neither of which keeps the name of the original school.

Example - Laurel Co High School (1982 State Champions) split into North Laurel and South Laurel.

Do both schools claim their history/championships, or does one somehow keep the history while the other has none, or do both start from scratch?

 

2. School B splits off from School A, while school A, though smaller, remains.

Example - Shelby Co High School (1966 and 1978 State Champions) had Collins High School open from it's base.

I would guess Shelby Co keeps all their history and Collins starts anew.

 

3. School B is Absorbed by school A

Example - Maysville High School (1947 State Champions) was absorbed by Mason Co.

Does Mason Co keep only their history, and Maysville's doesn't belong to anyone? I don't guess it would make since for a school be able to claim a winner and runner-up in the same season. Does school A keep the banners and trophies earned by school B? If not, what happens to them?

 

4. School A and B (and possibly many more) merge into School C.

Example - Hindman (1943 State Champions) and Carr Creek (1956 State Champions) and Knott Co High Schools merged to form Knott Co. Central High School.

Did Knott Co Central start with 0 history? If so, what happens to the trophies earned by Hindman and Carr Creek?

Several schools that have won state championships in the past have either merged with other schools, or split up into multiple schools. Who rightfully claims those championships?

 

I can think of 4 possible scenarios:

 

1. School A breaks up into 2 or more schools, neither of which keeps the name of the original school.

Example - Laurel Co High School (1982 State Champions) split into North Laurel and South Laurel.

Do both schools claim their history/championships, or does one somehow keep the history while the other has none, or do both start from scratch?

 

2. School B splits off from School A, while school A, though smaller, remains.

Example - Shelby Co High School (1966 and 1978 State Champions) had Collins High School open from it's base.

I would guess Shelby Co keeps all their history and Collins starts anew.

 

 

Scenario A and B are more similar than you think. In London, the old Laurel Co. HS building is now South Laurel HS. Folks coming through that building maintain that connection to the past. Folks at North Laurel, from my experience, always seemed like they felt they were the red-headed stepchild as a result (that may have changed since I moved away, but it was definitely in a lot of folks' heads when I was there). Matters were compounded by the fact that the school district offices are on the SLHS campus.

 

I don't know if they ever did it or not, but there was discussion of making SL-NL hoops games trips back through time, where the schools would wear pre-consolidation uniforms from the old Bush, Lily, Hazel Green and London high schools.

I don't know if they ever did it or not, but there was discussion of making SL-NL hoops games trips back through time, where the schools would wear pre-consolidation uniforms from the old Bush, Lily, Hazel Green and London high schools.

 

I like that - Wayne County did that this year in the second game of the season. They wore Monticello High jerseys (blue & white), honored MHS's '60 State Runners-Up squad, all the other MHS athletes present, plus hung banners listing MHS's accomplishments and put a photo of the '60 squad up.

 

The deal at Laurel County was different. That was first a county-wide merger (4 into 1) and then much later a split (1 into 2) and I can see how difficult that would be although I think honoring your past legacy schools & players helps to heal a lot of wounds and bad feelings. Lord knows that the Laurel County schools (Bush, Hazel Green, Lilly & London) have a ton of tradition from the achievements of those respective schools, their coaches and their players. The first one that comes to mind for me is Raymond Reed and his Hazel Green teams. Coach Joe Harper (Monticello & Wayne County) was from London. So much history based out of there.

Several schools that have won state championships in the past have either merged with other schools, or split up into multiple schools. Who rightfully claims those championships?

 

I can think of 4 possible scenarios:

 

1. School A breaks up into 2 or more schools, neither of which keeps the name of the original school.

Example - Laurel Co High School (1982 State Champions) split into North Laurel and South Laurel.

Do both schools claim their history/championships, or does one somehow keep the history while the other has none, or do both start from scratch?

 

2. School B splits off from School A, while school A, though smaller, remains.

Example - Shelby Co High School (1966 and 1978 State Champions) had Collins High School open from it's base.

I would guess Shelby Co keeps all their history and Collins starts anew.

3. School B is Absorbed by school A

Example - Maysville High School (1947 State Champions) was absorbed by Mason Co.

Does Mason Co keep only their history, and Maysville's doesn't belong to anyone? I don't guess it would make since for a school be able to claim a winner and runner-up in the same season. Does school A keep the banners and trophies earned by school B? If not, what happens to them?

 

4. School A and B (and possibly many more) merge into School C.

Example - Hindman (1943 State Champions) and Carr Creek (1956 State Champions) and Knott Co High Schools merged to form Knott Co. Central High School.

Did Knott Co Central start with 0 history? If so, what happens to the trophies earned by Hindman and Carr Creek?

 

In this case Mason County kept a lot of Maysville's trophies and moved them to the Fieldhouse. As for the banners, I don't know what ever happened to them. As for the history (wins, mascots, and school colors), they don't claim any of it.

I like that - Wayne County did that this year in the second game of the season. They wore Monticello High jerseys (blue & white), honored MHS's '60 State Runners-Up squad, all the other MHS athletes present, plus hung banners listing MHS's accomplishments and put a photo of the '60 squad up.

 

The deal at Laurel County was different. That was first a county-wide merger (4 into 1) and then much later a split (1 into 2) and I can see how difficult that would be although I think honoring your past legacy schools & players helps to heal a lot of wounds and bad feelings. Lord knows that the Laurel County schools (Bush, Hazel Green, Lilly & London) have a ton of tradition from the achievements of those respective schools, their coaches and their players. The first one that comes to mind for me is Raymond Reed and his Hazel Green teams. Coach Joe Harper (Monticello & Wayne County) was from London. So much history based out of there.

 

Really think that is a great idea. It's important to honor those that created the "tradition" that you have now. It's also pretty neat to go through some of the history of the older schools as well.

Several schools that have won state championships in the past have either merged with other schools, or split up into multiple schools. Who rightfully claims those championships?

 

I can think of 4 possible scenarios:

 

1. School A breaks up into 2 or more schools, neither of which keeps the name of the original school.

Example - Laurel Co High School (1982 State Champions) split into North Laurel and South Laurel.

Do both schools claim their history/championships, or does one somehow keep the history while the other has none, or do both start from scratch?

 

2. School B splits off from School A, while school A, though smaller, remains.

Example - Shelby Co High School (1966 and 1978 State Champions) had Collins High School open from it's base.

I would guess Shelby Co keeps all their history and Collins starts anew.

 

3. School B is Absorbed by school A

Example - Maysville High School (1947 State Champions) was absorbed by Mason Co.

Does Mason Co keep only their history, and Maysville's doesn't belong to anyone? I don't guess it would make since for a school be able to claim a winner and runner-up in the same season. Does school A keep the banners and trophies earned by school B? If not, what happens to them?

 

4. School A and B (and possibly many more) merge into School C.

Example - Hindman (1943 State Champions) and Carr Creek (1956 State Champions) and Knott Co High Schools merged to form Knott Co. Central High School.

Did Knott Co Central start with 0 history? If so, what happens to the trophies earned by Hindman and Carr Creek?

 

The Hindman and Carr Creek trophies are in trophy case at the Morton Combs Athletic Complex at Knott Central.

Covington Grant is part of the Holmes history now. They are eligible to be in the Holmes Athletic Hall of Fame and Wall of Distinction. I believe their trophies and things came to Holmes, but not certain.

I've always thought it was odd that in the state tournament program it lists Laurel County as having one title and South Laurel as having one title. But in reality it's the same school. It's the same building. Same mascot name. The only difference would be that Laurel had to give up part of their enrollment to create the new school at North. But other than losing enrollment nothing else changed. The school has two state championships. It should be listed as Laurel County/South Laurel, championships: 2.

Now on the other hand, since North Laurel is a new school everything starts new for them. They've got to make their own history. They don't share in the old school's history, rather they chart their own.

I wonder if this is something that schools iron out in the consolidation process?

I wonder if this is something that schools iron out in the consolidation process?

 

If the Laurel County School System had wanted "South" Laurel to maintain Laurel County's carry-over of tradition (since '70 or was it '71?) then they would have allowed them to keep the high school name of "Laurel County" and the second school would have been North Laurel or whatever (but not sure that the KHSAA would recognize that as such).

 

"Laurel County" was composed of all high school-age students in the county of Laurel whereas North & South Laurel are composed of two different halves of the county. Two new different high schools, neither totally based on the student base that Laurel County was.

 

Laurel County was a merger of Bush, Hazel Green, Lilly and London, but you didn't see Laurel County claim whatever achievements that those high schools had accomplished prior to the merger (and this circumstance has been repeated over & over all over the state).

 

Looking back it is surprising how many counties have merged their schools until there was only just one school and then 20-30 years later they ended up splitting it up because the one school became too large and difficult to manage (LOT of students, teachers & administration in one location which in turn means lots & lots of buses & vehicles).

 

I note that many of them are counties through which Interstates were routed which brought about growth of all types which in turn increased the need for more school facilities to take care of the children.