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Reds at Phillies Series 05/17 thru 05/20/13

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Robinson CF

Izturis SS

Votto 1B

Phillips 2B

Bruce RF

Frazier 3B

Paul LF

Hanigan C

Cueto P

 

I thought they played the mets tonight?

I thought they played the mets tonight?

 

Don't know what you're talking about. :D

Don't know what you're talking about. :D

 

you never do :lol2:

So, you're really trying to say you don't place importance on Sv%? Closer is the easiest position in baseball to evaluate. Sv% is the only metric that has any significance at all. You either did the job you were asked to do, or you didn't. It's the most cut & dry, black & white position in baseball. Either you were successful or you weren't.

 

Ok, so if we're taking one bad week away from Chapman each year, I assume we can do that with Cordero too? I mean, these games did really occur, right? They counted, right?

 

It isn't always as easy as comparing Save %. For example, you are using Chapman's save percentage over the 3+ seasons he has been on the Reds roster. He wasn't the closer for that whole time. In fact, 3 of his "Blown Saves" came in 2010 and 2011. In each case he was brought on in the 8th inning in a setup role--not as a closer. So if you take that into account his save percentage in games he was actually used to close games rises to 47/54 which is 87% and is above average.

It isn't always as easy as comparing Save %. For example, you are using Chapman's save percentage over the 3+ seasons he has been on the Reds roster. He wasn't the closer for that whole time. In fact, 3 of his "Blown Saves" came in 2010 and 2011. In each case he was brought on in the 8th inning in a setup role--not as a closer. So if you take that into account his save percentage in games he was actually used to close games rises to 47/54 which is 87% and is above average.

 

Even with that he's just above average. It's pretty funny that his save percentage is almost exactly what the win percentage is for teams with a lead going into the 9th inning historically in baseball for over 100 years. I have been telling people for two years just about anyone can close b/c it's tough to consistently blow 9th inning leads. It's the argument for Chapman being a starter especially with the amount of quality arms the Reds have in the pen. However I did change my mind last year and I am ok with Chapman closing, he can dominate at times. It's just silly that people acted like he couldn't blow a save or he could be as good as Mariano Rivera. He will more than likely be a very good closer for years just not Hall of Fame worthy.

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