Great win for the eagles!!!!! Big game at Harrison Co tomorrow evening.

Chase Ford pitched one heck of a game! I think at one point he had runners on 2nd and 3rd and found a way out of the jam.

Did I hear correctly that there was a "catchers balk" called in this game? Any details of the play?

Did I hear correctly that there was a "catchers balk" called in this game? Any details of the play?

 

I heard the same thing. Seems like I did some looking into since I had no idea what it was and this is what I found.

 

 

"On June 24, 2004, John Shulock called such a balk on the Braves' Greg Maddux when he pitched while catcher Fernando Lunar's foot was out of the box. Bobby Cox argued the call and was ejected. The night before, Brewers' manager Davey Lopes had asked the umpires to enforce the rule against the Braves' catcher Javy Lopez, who was setting up far outside the box. This appears to be the only time this balk has been called in decades.

Major League crew chief Tim McClelland has written "As a matter of fact, I have never seen it called, it's one of those things you just kind of let slide."

 

Apparently it doesnt get called in MLB, but it does in NKAC. The guy has issues.....

I heard the same thing. Seems like I did some looking into since I had no idea what it was and this is what I found.

 

 

"On June 24, 2004, John Shulock called such a balk on the Braves' Greg Maddux when he pitched while catcher Fernando Lunar's foot was out of the box. Bobby Cox argued the call and was ejected. The night before, Brewers' manager Davey Lopes had asked the umpires to enforce the rule against the Braves' catcher Javy Lopez, who was setting up far outside the box. This appears to be the only time this balk has been called in decades.

Major League crew chief Tim McClelland has written "As a matter of fact, I have never seen it called, it's one of those things you just kind of let slide."

 

Apparently it doesnt get called in MLB, but it does in NKAC. The guy has issues.....

 

Technically, a catcher cannot balk so the name is misleading. Only a pitcher can commit a balk.

 

High school doesn't throw pitches on an intentional walk so it couldn't be that. Curious as to what the play was.

So did this call have any bearing on the outcome of the game?

So did this call have any bearing on the outcome of the game?

 

Cost the Birds a run.

So did this call have any bearing on the outcome of the game?

 

It had a significant impact on the game, although it wasn't the most well played game the Birds have had this year.

 

Disclaimer - my son was on the mound.

 

First the rule: Rule 4.03(a) states "The catcher shall station himself directly back of the plate. He may leave his position at any time to catch a pitch or make a play except that when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stand with both feet within the lines of the catcher's box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand. PENALTY: Balk."

 

So let's be clear right off the bat (pun intended) - the Birds were not attempting an intentional walk, so the rule was totally misapplied, and as we all know, in high school we don't throw the pitches on an intentional walk anyway.

 

Bases loaded, less than 3 balls although the exact count at the time escapes me. Pitch-out is called to go after the kid at first. While the pitcher is in his wind-up, the catcher hops up and to the right to catch the pitch-out, which he does & delivers the ball to the first baseman. The home plate ump immediately yells out "catcher's balk," and instructs all base runners to move ahead one spot, giving Scott a run. When questioned, the ump says the catcher can't be out of the catcher's box when the pitch leaves the pitcher's hand. :facepalm:

 

You make the call. This ump has issues.

What guy has issues?

What guy has issues?

 

The home plate ump. Unless I'm missing something in the rule, it was a really, really bad call.

Ok that makes sense. I had asked the question after reading chickenhawks post. Was not sure if he was referring to the major league ump or your guys home plate ump.

Sounds like a over zealous ump injecting himself into the outcome of a game. If I read the rule correctly he has every right to go after a pitch. My question is the way you describe it the catcher actually jumped up before the pitch was released. Does this have any bearing on the actual call?

It had a significant impact on the game, although it wasn't the most well played game the Birds have had this year.

 

Disclaimer - my son was on the mound.

 

First the rule: Rule 4.03(a) states "The catcher shall station himself directly back of the plate. He may leave his position at any time to catch a pitch or make a play except that when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stand with both feet within the lines of the catcher's box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand. PENALTY: Balk."

 

So let's be clear right off the bat (pun intended) - the Birds were not attempting an intentional walk, so the rule was totally misapplied, and as we all know, in high school we don't throw the pitches on an intentional walk anyway.

 

Bases loaded, less than 3 balls although the exact count at the time escapes me. Pitch-out is called to go after the kid at first. While the pitcher is in his wind-up, the catcher hops up and to the right to catch the pitch-out, which he does & delivers the ball to the first baseman. The home plate ump immediately yells out "catcher's balk," and instructs all base runners to move ahead one spot, giving Scott a run. When questioned, the ump says the catcher can't be out of the catcher's box when the pitch leaves the pitcher's hand. :facepalm:

 

You make the call. This ump has issues.

 

The rule you cite is , indeed, for the IBB. However, there is also a rule that says the catcher cannot leave the box until TIME OF PITCH (key) on a pitched ball. TOP is definied in FED (high school) as something like when the pitcher's motion commits him to pitch the ball to the plate. From what I was told that rule was not violated in this case. Q didn't come out of the box until the pitcher had started his motion. If that's the case then the rule was misapplied.

The home plate ump. Unless I'm missing something in the rule, it was a really, really bad call.

 

Homeplate Umps and Catchers have a gentleman's agreement when it they work together and I find this call to be way out of line unless of course the catcher totally jumped out of his stance and interfered with the batter. Other then that somebody has been watching way too much 1980's sportscenter.

 

Wow, did the Highlands catcher let the next three fast balls accidentally slip through his mit? LOL

Homeplate Umps and Catchers have a gentleman's agreement when it they work together and I find this call to be way out of line unless of course the catcher totally jumped out of his stance and interfered with the batter. Other then that somebody has been watching way too much 1980's sportscenter.

 

Wow, did the Highlands catcher let the next three fast balls accidentally slip through his mit? LOL

 

Reminds me of a knothole game I saw last year. An AFrican American umpire was behind the plate, the catcher and pitcher got confused, the catcher jumps out for a pitch out that never happened. Fastball down the middle and hits the umpire in the jewels. He buckled and made the funniest yelp i have ever heard. It was scary actually, he got up and walked it off. LOL