Yes. Otherwise I'd do what I want to at work. If they aren't going to fire me then why should I respect them?

 

Just because you do what they say doesn't mean respect.

 

Huge leap here (done for example purposes), but an example of what I'm saying....Back in the days of slavery, slaves did what they were told. You think they respected the people that enslaved them, or you think they just did what they were told to avoid being beaten?

:lol:

 

Absolutely. The belt and paddle came when I got caught. Needless to say the belt and paddle taught to me never make the same mistake twice. :lol:

Right there with you. Here's the thing for me, I had a reverent fear of my father. I never, not for one millisecond ever thought my father didn't love me. Not even when he whipped me. I knew my mistake, and frankly knew when I made it, that it was gonna cost me if I got caught. I knew the consequences. And those consequences were in place to change my behavior for my own benefit. Not so he could strong-arm me or lord over me physically. He whipped me to alter my behavior so I wouldn't make mistakes that were outside the line of common decency as a kid growing up. It taught me respect, courtesy, and honesty. That's a respect out of fear of consequences of my own actions and my own making.

 

#1 problem with youth today in spindoc's opinion? No consequences for their actions.

So fearing the consequences of your action translate into respect in your mind?

 

You're a smart guy, read that again, then answer it.

Just because you do what they say doesn't mean respect.

 

Huge leap here (done for example purposes), but an example of what I'm saying....Back in the days of slavery, slaves did what they were told. You think they respected the people that enslaved them, or you think they just did what they were told to avoid being beaten?

 

In a roundabout way, yes. If I don't respect you then I'm not going to do what you say regardless of the consequences. I feared my father but I respected him and what he expected of me. I'd say many slaves were murdered because they didn't respect their master.

 

Good example and question though.

Right there with you. Here's the thing for me, I had a reverent fear of my father. I never, not for one millisecond ever thought my father didn't love me. Not even when he whipped me. I knew my mistake, and frankly knew when I made it, that it was gonna cost me if I got caught. I knew the consequences. And those consequences were in place to change my behavior for my own benefit. Not so he could strong-arm me or lord over me physically. He whipped me to alter my behavior so I wouldn't make mistakes that were outside the line of common decency as a kid growing up. It taught me respect, courtesy, and honesty. That's a respect out of fear of consequences of my own actions and my own making.

 

#1 problem with youth today in spindoc's opinion? No consequences for their actions.

 

 

Amen.

Or you could just instill good morals and values so that they know what the right decision to make is.

 

Respect out of fear is not true respect.

Good kids still make bad decisions. My kids have been taught good morals and values and to respect authority and their elders because if they don't there are consequences for their choices.