Wild game. Lots of Ts being issued.

 

Manual's coach was ejected late when the 2nd T was issued.

 

Will not get to coach the region final. Heck, I think he will miss 3 games.

 

Anyone with details?

Yowsa. And Assumption's been cruising the last few weeks too. Tough to lose the coach for a final.

Wild game. Lots of Ts being issued.

 

Manual's coach was ejected late when the 2nd T was issued.

 

Will not get to coach the region final. Heck, I think he will miss 3 games.

 

Anyone with details?

 

Just two games story attached.

 

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2013303010155

Just two games story attached.

 

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2013303010155

 

I don't believe that is correct. Every coach that is listed on the KHSAA site as being ejected got at least 3 games.

Wow!!! Article said first time ejected in career and this is his last year coaching at Manual...

 

Whether it is two or three games suspended, will it really matter?

Frakes corrected himself on Twitter. It is a 3 game suspension so the earliest he could coach would be if his team makes the state semis.

 

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Frakes corrected himself on Twitter. It is a 3 game suspension so the earliest he could coach would be if his team makes the state semis.

 

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Thanks for the correction. In any regard 2 or 3 games is a big deal.

In all the games I have been to this year, this was the worst officiated. Ref even got into it with fan after game. What a shame for both teams to have it end this way.

In all the games I have been to this year, this was the worst officiated. Ref even got into it with fan after game. What a shame for both teams to have it end this way.

 

I'm being redundant, as I made this same point on another thread. For referees, there is no accountability when they are calling post-season games out-of-region. The most effective referees manage game situations by being proactive and preventative in ther approach to calling games. This incident could have been - and should have been - avoided in the waning seconds of a tense game.

When a coach is instictively/spontaneously standing up to address his/her instruct his team at the end of a big-time game, is this the really "right" call to make in a knee-jerk response? Sure, the rules state that the coach must sit down after receiving a technical, but any close observer of basketball games knows that discretionary application of the rules, i.e. judgement calls, are the true nature of the day. This outcome of suspension for multiple games, IMO, plainly stinks, and most likely would not have happened if in-region officials were used. IF justice is to be served, then the long-range implications of this poor call should be able to be successfuly appealed. But unfortunately, the KHSAA does not have a tradtion of overturning poor officiating decisions such as this, and I predict that the powers that be will most likely follow the "code" and stand behind the stripes and whistle yet another time - even when wrong. (However, I sincerely hope that my prediction is wrong.)

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In all the games I have been to this year, this was the worst officiated. Ref even got into it with fan after game. What a shame for both teams to have it end this way.

 

I'm being redundant, as I made this same point on another thread. For referees there is no accountability when they are calling post-season games out-of-region. The most effective referees manage game situations by being proactive and preventative in ther approach to calling games. This incident could have been - and should have been - avoided in the waning seconds of a tense game.

When a coach is instictively/spontaneously standing up to address his/her instruct his team at the end of a big-time game, is this the really "right" call to make in a knee-jerk response? Sure, the rules state that the coach must sit down after receiving a technical, but any close observer of basketball games knows that discretionary application of the rules, i.e. judgement calls, are the true nature of the day. This outcome of suspension for multiple games, IMO, plainly stinks, and most likely would not have happened if in-region officials were used. IF justice is to be served, then the long-range implications of this poor call should be able to be successfuly appealed. But unfortunately, the KHSAA does not have a tradtion of overturning poor officiating decisions such as this, and I predict that the powers that be will most likely follow the "code" and stand behind the stripes and whistle yet another time - even when wrong. (However, I sincerely hope that my prediction is wrong.)

I witnessed the worst decisions a team of refs could make in an intense ball game. In all my years of watching basketball, this goes down as the worst ever for many reasons.

Number one reason....the officials determined the outcome of this game.

Coach P's technical with 34 sec left was a joke, equal to SHA Ruffin tech. Ruffin was called for traveling, which on film was blatantly wrong. She flinched in dismay and was t'd up. When you see you will see it was outright ridiculous call.

 

I saw the film where The calls made against SHA were just plain wrong. (5 in last 2 min)

 

When I get the clips I will post on here for all to see. This was a travesty to the kids! You will be amazed.

 

That team of refs should retire in shame.

I'm being redundant, as I made this same point on another thread. For referees, there is no accountability when they are calling post-season games out-of-region. The most effective referees manage game situations by being proactive and preventative in ther approach to calling games. This incident could have been - and should have been - avoided in the waning seconds of a tense game.

When a coach is instictively/spontaneously standing up to address his/her instruct his team at the end of a big-time game, is this the really "right" call to make in a knee-jerk response? Sure, the rules state that the coach must sit down after receiving a technical, but any close observer of basketball games knows that discretionary application of the rules, i.e. judgement calls, are the true nature of the day. This outcome of suspension for multiple games, IMO, plainly stinks, and most likely would not have happened if in-region officials were used. IF justice is to be served, then the long-range implications of this poor call should be able to be successfuly appealed. But unfortunately, the KHSAA does not have a tradtion of overturning poor officiating decisions such as this, and I predict that the powers that be will most likely follow the "code" and stand behind the stripes and whistle yet another time - even when wrong. (However, I sincerely hope that my prediction is wrong.)

Spot on post. I have been saying this for years, along with MANY 6th Region and 8th Region coaches that I know.

I should also add that, although this has nothing to do with having out of region officials, a LOT of poor officiating is due to the fact that many referees did not ever play the game at an organized level.

I witnessed the worst decisions a team of refs could make in an intense ball game. In all my years of watching basketball, this goes down as the worst ever for many reasons.

Number one reason....the officials determined the outcome of this game.

Coach P's technical with 34 sec left was a joke, equal to SHA Ruffin tech. Ruffin was called for traveling, which on film was blatantly wrong. She flinched in dismay and was t'd up. When you see you will see it was outright ridiculous call.

 

I saw the film where The calls made against SHA were just plain wrong. (5 in last 2 min)

 

When I get the clips I will post on here for all to see. This was a travesty to the kids! You will be amazed.

 

That team of refs should retire in shame.

 

After reflection I am retracting my statement about posting clips of the game on here. Hopefully some adjustments are made on who calls regional games.