Is the 56th district the only one of the 4 districts in the 14th region that seeds?

 

The 56th has been seeding for close to 30 years, and voted to continue to do so last spring when Estill County replaced Wolfe County in the district. Seeding magnifies the importance of each district game and gives them an almost tournament atmosphere. Our school, Owsley County, is the smallest school in our district ( Powell 735, Estill 692, Lee 360, Owsley 232....and the old district team, Wolfe, had 356), but we have always been a supporter of seeding and have never let the size of our school be an excuse for voting against the policy.

 

And I might add that we have done quite well since seeding began, winning district titles in '82, '83, '85, '88, '90, '92, '99, '00, and '05. We were also region runner up in '83 and '85 and been in the semifinals a bunch of times, and have won 4 All A region titles and a state runner up ('90).The way I look at it, when you're smaller it just means that much more when when you win.

 

Schools that aren't voting for seeding don't know what they're missing. Take the challenge and go with it.

I guess no one else is interesting in seeding but the 56th :lol:

 

I thought there might have been some discussion on the subject.

 

I know the folks at Lee County probably are happy with it right now. Their February 3rd game in Beattyville vs Estill County could decide who is # 1, and their gate should be HUGE because of the importance of this game. If Lee wins, then they're the # 1, if Estill wins by 4 or more, then they are # 1 (assuming they win at home vs Powell next week, which I think they will). The reason it will take a 4 point win for Estill is the 56th has a point policy where if two teams are tied for the season then the one with the largest winning margin is the winner. Lee won at Estill by 3 in December, so Estill will have to win by at least 4 at Lee. The point margin only goes to 15 to keep teams from running up the score. If both teams have a 15 (or more) point victories, then a coin toss determines the # 1 seed.

It all makes for a lot of fun and excitement during the season.....and big crowds :thumb:

 

And the winner of the season is awarded a conference trophy at the district tournament meeting in late February.

I agree wiht you Professor. Without seeding, the district games are nothing special. Just another game. But the atmosphere is so great when every district game counts, its awesome.

Is the 56th district the only one of the 4 districts in the 14th region that seeds?

 

The 56th has been seeding for close to 30 years, and voted to continue to do so last spring when Estill County replaced Wolfe County in the district. Seeding magnifies the importance of each district game and gives them an almost tournament atmosphere. Our school, Owsley County, is the smallest school in our district ( Powell 735, Estill 692, Lee 360, Owsley 232....and the old district team, Wolfe, had 356), but we have always been a supporter of seeding and have never let the size of our school be an excuse for voting against the policy.

 

And I might add that we have done quite well since seeding began, winning district titles in '82, '83, '85, '88, '90, '92, '99, '00, and '05. We were also region runner up in '83 and '85 and been in the semifinals a bunch of times, and have won 4 All A region titles and a state runner up ('90).The way I look at it, when you're smaller it just means that much more when when you win.

 

Schools that aren't voting for seeding don't know what they're missing. Take the challenge and go with it.

 

You guys had a strong program to begin with is my guess. Where you get people who won't vote to seed is schools like Riverside and until recently Jackson City, where their best chance of ever making it to a regional game is the luck of the draw.

I think that defeats the purpose of playing district games then. If you could get lucky and make the region no matter what, that sucks because the best team should go, or the team who beat the best team...get what im saying.

You guys had a strong program to begin with is my guess. Where you get people who won't vote to seed is schools like Riverside and until recently Jackson City, where their best chance of ever making it to a regional game is the luck of the draw.

Actually we didn't have a strong program when we first started seeding. Owsley went from 1962 to 1982 without a district championship, and only a few trips to the regional tournament. We didn't get in the thick of things until Charlie Turner took over in 1979, and Owsley has been competitive since. This year has been pretty hard on Owl fans because they're not used to a 2-11 record, but hopefully the rest of the season will be brighter. Last night's win over Powell will maybe help get back on track. But it won't be easy, the next 3 games : Hazard, South Floyd, and the All A.... starting with June Buchanan.

You guys had a strong program to begin with is my guess. Where you get people who won't vote to seed is schools like Riverside and until recently Jackson City, where their best chance of ever making it to a regional game is the luck of the draw.

It's my understanding that Breathitt did not vote to seed this year either so they wouldn't have to play Jackson City twice. Just what I was told by severaly reliable people. One of which is in the Breathitt system. Oh well.

It's my understanding that Breathitt did not vote to seed this year either so they wouldn't have to play Jackson City twice. Just what I was told by severaly reliable people. One of which is in the Breathitt system. Oh well.

That's one problem we have never had in the 56th. All schools have always played each other twice, even in the days of many years ago before seeding. It was always a non-issue.

 

In Breathitt and Jackson's case it was probably a political issue, but that shouldn't be the case now, since it's my understanding all their political differences were worked out in a compromise last week.

Leslie County is staying out of this discussion.

 

Breathitt has no excuse for not seeding if that's true.

I think that defeats the purpose of playing district games then. If you could get lucky and make the region no matter what, that sucks because the best team should go, or the team who beat the best team...get what im saying.

I don't disagree with you nor the professor, nor Roundleather. I think the best two teams from the district should be represented in the region. Breathitt went several years being second best to Knott County and seemed they alwys drew them in the first round of the district. Perry Central has knocked out Hazard two years in a row when they should have gone to the region also. I'm just saying that there is no real incentive or benifit in a weak program voting to seed.

Oh, I see what you are saying now. Its gotta be tough for them

Seeding is something that occurs at every level, why not amke it a part of every district. It is definetly an advantage to top seeded teams, but on any given night in ky basketball a team can get knocked off, if its meant to be the best team will advance and represent their region

The luck of the draw has been bad on a few teams in the past couple of years. Perry Central and Hazard have played each other the last two years in the first round of the district. Year before last Hazard won the state All A classic and in my opinion had the best team in the 14th only to get beat in the first round of the district on a last secong shot. Then last year a good Hazard team was defeated in the district by PCC. I would say the Hazard would have loved to of seen some seeding in the mountains.

Seeding is something that occurs at every level, why not amke it a part of every district. It is definetly an advantage to top seeded teams, but on any given night in ky basketball a team can get knocked off, if its meant to be the best team will advance and represent their region

It is up to each district to vote as to if they want to seed or draw. To change the way it's done would need to be mandated by the KHSAA.

It is up to each district to vote as to if they want to seed or draw. To change the way it's done would need to be mandated by the KHSAA.

I think it needs to be mandated. The KHSAA could rule that teams like Riverside Christian, for instance, can forfeit their seeded game but it will not officially go down as a loss in the records. That way they would automatically have a 4 seed, but wouldn't have 6 losses. Then the best two teams could represent the district. That type ruling would have certainly benifited The David School should this year.