June 26, 201214 yr Actually I am not a teacher, just work with/in the school every day during the year. By picking out a "fair skinned and likely to get sunburned" student and tell them hey you gotta go inside or you cant go outside, that sets up a situation of discrimination due to ones physical nature, aint no teacher doing that and keeping their job long. Ya they would if this is the reason they did it. If they say look i saw a kid starting to look extremely red and took them inside for their own safety nothing could possibly be done about it. What if the kid had needed skin grafts because of the severity of the burns received do you really feel comfortable saying the school should just leave the kid outside regradless of how bad the burns get? 2nd degree burns are very serious this isn't a mild sunburn.
June 26, 201214 yr I fully blame the mom on this one, and you wont convince me other wise. She knows her child, she had to of known the field day was coming, call the doctor, get a note, take it to school with the sunscreen and there would have been no issue. Her kids could have put sunscreen on them every ten minutes if they wanted. I totally agree that the blame goes to the mother, but what would most school teachers, and administrators do if a kid came to school in just jeans, and a short sleeved shirt if it were snowing, and the temperature was between 5-10?
June 26, 201214 yr I totally agree that the blame goes to the mother, but what would most school teachers, and administrators do if a kid came to school in just jeans, and a short sleeved shirt if it were snowing, and the temperature was between 5-10? Depends, did the mom just drop the kid off, right out of the car? Does the kid just hop from the car onto the bus? did the kid just leave his coat on the bus? In reality, the family resourse person or someone in line with that would probably call home and ask wheres the kids coat if it was a continual problem.
June 26, 201214 yr Author If we're assigning blame I give Mom 80% for not being proactive and the teacher and staff 20% for not seeing the kid was burning and pulling them out of the sun.
June 26, 201214 yr If we're assigning blame I give Mom 80% for not being proactive and the teacher and staff 20% for not seeing the kid was burning and pulling them out of the sun. I can agree with that Clyde. Seems reasonable.
June 26, 201214 yr Kids are excused from participating in gym classes from time to time due to a note from a physician. Why couldn't the mother have obtained a note from the physician for her children if she knew that they were having field day outside that day? She knew better than anyone what too much exposure to the sun would do to her children. I agree with leatherneck. I agree with everything leatherneck had to say on the subject.
June 26, 201214 yr Kids are excused from participating in gym classes from time to time due to a note from a physician. Why couldn't the mother have obtained a note from the physician for her children if she knew that they were having field day outside that day? She knew better than anyone what too much exposure to the sun would do to her children. I agree with leatherneck. I agree with everything leatherneck had to say on the subject. We require teachers to report neglect and abuse, why shouldn't we require teachers to stop neglect and abuse? If the mother is responsible for not stopping this why isn't the school responsible for identifying the problem and stopping it?
June 26, 201214 yr Come on use common sense, you can look at a kid and tell if they are really fair skinned and likely to get sunburned. If you can't do that I question whether or not you have the ability to be an even remotely competent teacher. I get your a teacher and want to defend other teacehrs trust me, I grew up in a house full of teachers, but sometimes you have to use common sense to look out for your kids and not defend something horrible. You can easily be hospitalized for 2nd degree burns from the sun. I know quite a few people that are as pale as can be, then first time they get sun, are extremely tanned. Your "common sense" logic is extremely flawed. This was not the teacher's fault. She did nothing wrong.
June 26, 201214 yr Author We require teachers to report neglect and abuse, why shouldn't we require teachers to stop neglect and abuse? If the mother is responsible for not stopping this why isn't the school responsible for identifying the problem and stopping it? In theory you are right. However, you can't simply remove responsibility from the adults who are responsible for the children from 8 to 3.
June 26, 201214 yr I know quite a few people that are as pale as can be, then first time they get sun, are extremely tanned. Your "common sense" logic is extremely flawed. This was not the teacher's fault. She did nothing wrong. Not at all, watch them if they are pale if they start to get red send them inside. Great for those that can tan, me and my wife aren't in that group. leave us outside 30-45 minutes with no sunscreen and we will both look like tomatoes.
June 26, 201214 yr In theory you are right. However, you can't simply remove responsibility from the adults who are responsible for the children from 8 to 3. I don't want to, I want the school held responsible. It's ridiculous to think they coudl let a child stay out with no sunscreen long enough to get 2nd degree burns and not for one second think they should prevent that.
June 26, 201214 yr Author I don't want to, I want the school held responsible. It's ridiculous to think they coudl let a child stay out with no sunscreen long enough to get 2nd degree burns and not for one second think they should prevent that. Agreed. Blame the mom and rightly so but take care of the child.
June 26, 201214 yr For those that are just commenting without reading the whole article too the school district admitted that state law does not require this policy and that after the mother raised awareness they plan to change it so this won't happen again. It was also raining when the children bordered the bus, who really thinks to put sunscreen on their kid in the rain. I've never heard of a field day going forward in the rain. Also, the article points out that children aren't allowed to apply sunscreen themselves without a doctors note under the policy, so say mom sends them with sunscreen, which by the way is suppose to be reapplied every 2 hours, they still wouldn't have been allowed to use it if a teacher saw them with it. I just don't get how people can defend the school in this situation, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of a school doing.
June 26, 201214 yr For those that are just commenting without reading the whole article too the school district admitted that state law does not require this policy and that after the mother raised awareness they plan to change it so this won't happen again. It was also raining when the children bordered the bus, who really thinks to put sunscreen on their kid in the rain. I've never heard of a field day going forward in the rain. Also, the article points out that children aren't allowed to apply sunscreen themselves without a doctors note under the policy, so say mom sends them with sunscreen, which by the way is suppose to be reapplied every 2 hours, they still wouldn't have been allowed to use it if a teacher saw them with it. I just don't get how people can defend the school in this situation, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of a school doing. As to the bolded, I would say any competent parent who knew their kids were to be outside all day and knew they were susceptible to sunburn. Of course we can just continue to keep excusing the parents of any responsibility and keep trying to pass off raising the kids to someone else, the school in this situation. Is this a policy the school has had for a while? Is it one that parents are aware of? If the answer to either of those is yes, this is 150% on the parent.
June 26, 201214 yr For those that are just commenting without reading the whole article too the school district admitted that state law does not require this policy and that after the mother raised awareness they plan to change it so this won't happen again. It was also raining when the children bordered the bus, who really thinks to put sunscreen on their kid in the rain. I've never heard of a field day going forward in the rain. Also, the article points out that children aren't allowed to apply sunscreen themselves without a doctors note under the policy, so say mom sends them with sunscreen, which by the way is suppose to be reapplied every 2 hours, they still wouldn't have been allowed to use it if a teacher saw them with it. I just don't get how people can defend the school in this situation, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of a school doing. Does the mom know school policy? I bet that she does. If not, and the school has not communicated the expectations to her, then it is their fault. Do we know if the mother in any way communicated to the school that her kids had a medical condition that could lead to severe burns? I assume, too, that the mother understands that it can be raining at 8 am and then be sunny by 9 am? Again, the mother has the first line of responsibility. I don't totally release the school, however. Lastly, you mentioned teachers "vacationing" in the lounge. Do you think that this type of thing really happens? I can assure you that just because a teacher doesn't have students sitting in front of them does not mean that they aren't busy doing their job.
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