Wait till this is over to see if the teacher has her job. I would argue it's extreme negligence worthy of punitive damages to take a child out with severe pale skin and expose them to 2nd degree burns.

 

Don't become a lawyer. You'll lose. Negligence is defined "that which a normal person would do in a similar situation". The teacher did what a normal, prudent person would do. They followed the policy. The mom knew the policy. If she was so darned concerned, or paying attention, and she knows her kid, she should have drove to the school and applied the sunscreen. You CAN NOT do this as a teacher. You will get fired.

Don't become a lawyer. You'll lose. Negligence is defined "that which a normal person would do in a similar situation". The teacher did what a normal, prudent person would do. They followed the policy. The mom knew the policy. If she was so darned concerned, or paying attention, and she knows her kid, she should have drove to the school and applied the sunscreen. You CAN NOT do this as a teacher. You will get fired.

 

:lol: to the bolded....If that's the case HT721 wasted a lot of money on law school.

Don't become a lawyer. You'll lose. Negligence is defined "that which a normal person would do in a similar situation". The teacher did what a normal, prudent person would do. They followed the policy. The mom knew the policy. If she was so darned concerned, or paying attention, and she knows her kid, she should have drove to the school and applied the sunscreen. You CAN NOT do this as a teacher. You will get fired.

 

Agreed.

 

However, I assume the teacher can look out for the welfare of the child and remove them from the sun, correct?

Agreed.

 

However, I assume the teacher can look out for the welfare of the child and remove them from the sun, correct?

 

Yes. You could still be accused of punishing the child by taking her out of the field day activities, but I doubt anything more than the slandering of your name would come from that.

Does the mom know school policy? I bet that she does. If not, and the school has not communicated the expectations to her, then it is their fault.

 

Do we know if the mother in any way communicated to the school that her kids had a medical condition that could lead to severe burns?

 

I assume, too, that the mother understands that it can be raining at 8 am and then be sunny by 9 am?

 

Again, the mother has the first line of responsibility. I don't totally release the school, however.

 

Lastly, you mentioned teachers "vacationing" in the lounge. Do you think that this type of thing really happens? I can assure you that just because a teacher doesn't have students sitting in front of them does not mean that they aren't busy doing their job.

 

The vacationing in the lounge was because he said something about 1 teacher for 600 students. Also, if you read the article even if they had brought suncreen from home they would not have been allowed to use it without a doctors note.

Don't become a lawyer. You'll lose. Negligence is defined "that which a normal person would do in a similar situation". The teacher did what a normal, prudent person would do. They followed the policy. The mom knew the policy. If she was so darned concerned, or paying attention, and she knows her kid, she should have drove to the school and applied the sunscreen. You CAN NOT do this as a teacher. You will get fired.

 

I know the definition of negligence, and teachers are professional so they are held to what a reasonable person with their education and training would do. Part of their training is to report negligence and abuse of children, if a parent let a child get 2nd degree burns you better believe a teacher would be punished if they didn't call social services, so why on earth can't we hold schools accountable for letting a student get 2nd degree burns.

 

For the record the Commonwealth felt I was worthy of a law license. Though my typing on here fails to reflect that intelligence sometimes.

Don't become a lawyer. You'll lose. Negligence is defined "that which a normal person would do in a similar situation". The teacher did what a normal, prudent person would do. They followed the policy. The mom knew the policy. If she was so darned concerned, or paying attention, and she knows her kid, she should have drove to the school and applied the sunscreen. You CAN NOT do this as a teacher. You will get fired.

 

Also food for thought, what if the negligence isn't in the teachers following the policy, what if the negligence is in the policy itself. I.E. requiring a doctors note instead of just a parents note for sunscreen. I mean seriously it's pretty much common knowledge that everyone should wear sunscreen even if you don't burn easily, so why on earth should a doctors note be necessary, I would argue most reasonable people wouldn't take their kid to the doctor just to get a prescription to wear over the counter sunscreen. Also, the fact that the school has put in motion the wheels that will change the policy for next year in a matter of days since the incident shows they are worried about their policy.

I know the definition of negligence, and teachers are professional so they are held to what a reasonable person with their education and training would do. Part of their training is to report negligence and abuse of children, if a parent let a child get 2nd degree burns you better believe a teacher would be punished if they didn't call social services, so why on earth can't we hold schools accountable for letting a student get 2nd degree burns.

 

For the record the Commonwealth felt I was worthy of a law license. Though my typing on here fails to reflect that intelligence sometimes.

 

If a student comes to my classroom with a sunburn, that's really none of my concern. Heck, I got sunburned as heck at East Fork Lake on Sunday. I don't consider myself negligent.

Agreed.

 

However, I assume the teacher can look out for the welfare of the child and remove them from the sun, correct?

 

You can, yes. But let's be realistic. You are a teacher. You have 30 kids outside. It was a field day. Is this track and field? I'm not sure. How often am I that close to the kids. Did they go in for lunch? If so, did anyone notice? Did the student say they hurt, or were in pain? I teach HS, so I really wouldn't concern myself with the issue.

BTW, for my kids, I send sunscreen to school, and sign a release waiver. So I'm covered.

Also food for thought, what if the negligence isn't in the teachers following the policy, what if the negligence is in the policy itself. I.E. requiring a doctors note instead of just a parents note for sunscreen. I mean seriously it's pretty much common knowledge that everyone should wear sunscreen even if you don't burn easily, so why on earth should a doctors note be necessary, I would argue most reasonable people wouldn't take their kid to the doctor just to get a prescription to wear over the counter sunscreen. Also, the fact that the school has put in motion the wheels that will change the policy for next year in a matter of days since the incident shows they are worried about their policy.

 

Again, I'd argue that the parent is mostly responsible for the sunburn.

The vacationing in the lounge was because he said something about 1 teacher for 600 students. Also, if you read the article even if they had brought suncreen from home they would not have been allowed to use it without a doctors note.

 

I seriously doubt that one teacher was watching 600 students. Again, I also doubt that any teacher not supervising was "vacationing" in the lounge, if the school even has one (mine doesn't).

So schools can give out contraceptives but disallow applying your own sunscreen?

I seriously doubt that one teacher was watching 600 students. Again, I also doubt that any teacher not supervising was "vacationing" in the lounge, if the school even has one (mine doesn't).

 

Again it was me being fascious one of the initial arguments on here somewhere was that you had like 1 teacher for 600 students. I never said I believed only one teacher was watching them, I was just making the point that is was crazy to act like the student teacher ratio was any different on field day than a normal classroom day.

So schools can give out contraceptives but disallow applying your own sunscreen?

 

Welcome to the world liberals have created.