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2012 All 8th Region softball

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Congrats to John and the girls for being given this honor. John is probably the hardest working coach in the 8th Region and his results illustrate this.

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Jessica Gregg not being on this team is a flat out crime. She is an awesome player and is definitely one of the top players in the 8th region. Unbelievable that she did not make this team.

 

I couldn't agree more. Additionally, with Walton's strength of schedule, how could Thacker (20+ wins) not be on this team?

Johnny Anderson is an excellent coach, very worthy of the award. Players are harder to judge. Coaches may see a player a couple times a year. A great game or a bad game at the wrong time may effect the vote.

Johnny Anderson is an excellent coach, very worthy of the award. Players are harder to judge. Coaches may see a player a couple times a year. A great game or a bad game at the wrong time may effect the vote.

 

If they do their homework, they know who the best players are and who are having the best season. It doesn't matter if they have only seen them once or twice and whether it was a good game or bad when they seen the player. If they base a player's performance on one game without looking at the whole season, they are doing an injustice to the player.

WOW!!! A girl from Carroll being on it is just a mistake!

Five of them didn't even make the Regional tourney!!!

First, let me say congrats to all the young ladies that made it. There are not too many players I would take over the 4 you are referring to. Your insight and opinion is greatly appreciated. Although, I understand what you are saying, I still think GC got punked by the coaches in their own district. Really should not matter who or how many nominated, considering that being nominated is not a requirement to receive votes. It also does not explain the glaring omission of any other WV players from the group. In another strange twist, there is a player that made the All Region team that did not make the NCKC team, which seems somewhat odd in my opinion. Politics can sure be ugly.
I absolutely agree with you that any or all 4 are worthy of being on the team. With probably 40 to 50 good players to choose from and only 15 spots I think you can see how the Gallatin votes could get split. I wouldn't argue with all 4 of the Gallatin girls and the 3 Walton girls that have been mentioned. Unfortunately, that is 7 of the 15 spots right there, would you fault any of the coaches for not voting all 7?
I absolutely agree with you that any or all 4 are worthy of being on the team. With probably 40 to 50 good players to choose from and only 15 spots I think you can see how the Gallatin votes could get split. I wouldn't argue with all 4 of the Gallatin girls and the 3 Walton girls that have been mentioned. Unfortunately, that is 7 of the 15 spots right there, would you fault any of the coaches for not voting all 7?

 

How could they not vote for Gregg and Thacker? Two of the best at their positions and they have the numbers to back it up. Absolutely crazy!

WOW!!! A girl from Carroll being on it is just a mistake!
One more than Gallatin got.:laugh:

Yeah but we got the District Championship again!!!!

What I have to say may not be so nice, but the truth is the truth! Throughout the years I have seen all the teams in this region play and have gotten to know alot of the coaches,players and parents from each county.That being said, I think Gallatins girls deserve some respect here. But...Gallatins coach did her players no favors by nominating all 4 girls. You have to have the guts to nominate the best 1 or 2 in order for your girls to have a chance.The Dossett girl who plays 3rd is by far the best 3rd baseman and one of the very best players in the region, and I have seen them all. I have been hearing from coaches that she was voted #1 by some out of district coaches which only goes to verify what Far Beyond Driven had to say about being "punked" by your own district coaches. You are exactly right. If they would have voted her anywhere close to where she should have been voted, there is no question she would be high on that list.You could also have chosen any of the other 3 to nominate as well.The fact that no one in the region has any respect for Coach Edmondson plays a factor as well.Some coaches will not vote those players because of jealousy and some of the larger schools will not vote them because they dont believe that those players from an "A" school would be able to play for their teams.Little do they realize that in many cases, it would be exactly the opposite, in all reality. Coaches have been very upset that they have been beaten by her because, lets face it friends, it is not from her coaching that she has had a few winning seasons. She has been riding the coattails of her players that have made this team successful because of their travel ball experiences.The best thing she could do for her team is to resign and let someone take over the program who will want to put in the time to make this team even better. I have talked to many of the girls and parents from that program and I have been told that the girls have been very upset with less than rec. league practices and the lack of coaching knowledge, though she seems to stay out of their way. I have also heard through the grapevine that 2 of the best players from that team will not be returning next season if she stays as coach. Honestly, I am not sure how she has not been fired before now but the success that her team has had on their own, seems to be reinforcing in her mind that what she is, or is not, doing is working. It would be a shame to see this program go back to what it was before this group of girls who seem to have worked very hard on their own time. Now... I believe that Ginn should have been POY and the fact that Thacker did not make this team is unfathomable as well. She is one of the very best pitchers in this region, no question. Just the fact that Walton has been so successful and their strength of schedule should give them the 3. The fact that alot of coaches dont like Coach Anderson seems to make it a little easier for coaches to blackball his players. Its not right, but it happens! It befuddles me how Owen Co., who was beaten multiple times by both teams, had 2 players make the team with maybe only the pitcher deserving to be somewhere low on the list. Carroll, as said before, had a terible record and was awarded a player that should be below many, if on the list at all. As I have seen, seems the majority of players were pitchers, one of who NEVER bats and some that just arent that deserving compared to the players you had to choose from. So, I agree. In Northern Kentucky, people dont know softball and the coaches have just reinforced this thought by compiling this list.

If they do their homework, they know who the best players are and who are having the best season. It doesn't matter if they have only seen them once or twice and whether it was a good game or bad when they seen the player. If they base a player's performance on one game without looking at the whole season, they are doing an injustice to the player.

I disagree. If I play, for example, Owen County and Sutherland throws a no hitter, goes 3 for 4 with a home run and I think my team has a decent pitcher and team, then I would think she has earned a spot on the all region team. If we play WV and it is a 1-0 score with hardly any hits and Ginn pitched and hit a home run, I may assume the other players on WV are not better than Sutherland. What you see is more powerful than what you hear. Historically, most players that get selected for all region are all good players, the question is whether those that are omitted are actually better than those selected. My point is it is hard to evaluate in a subjective vote. The team is heavy with pitchers. I think it is a fair question that WV and Gallatin had very good years and their pitchers got snubbed. Why? Owen loses to Wv and GC, yet ranks two players. I don't want to insinuate that Owens girls are not worthy, because that is not my intent, however, if I'm from GC or WV, I'm feeling slighted.

I agree I think H. Dossett is the most worthy from GC. I think she is top 10 offensively and defensively. I'm not interested in bashing any players or coaches, I just think the system did not pick the best players this year. Congratulations to those honored.

Interesting post allsports44, you feel that WV players were blackballed because of John, but these same coaches voted him coach of the year. You also blame the Northern Kentucky Coaches for these players being left off, I would guess the 29th and 30th districts had more to do with this than the Northern Kentucky Coaches.

Interesting post allsports44, you feel that WV players were blackballed because of John, but these same coaches voted him coach of the year. You also blame the Northern Kentucky Coaches for these players being left off, I would guess the 29th and 30th districts had more to do with this than the Northern Kentucky Coaches.
You are correct in the fact that the 8th Region coaches had enough respect for John to vote him Coach of the year. The bias toward the Walton softball program is probably more related to the percieved notion that Walton benifits from transfers. You are also correct in assuming the 29th and 30th district coaches probably have little to no respect for the small school programs. But I still think the 31st district coaches have little to no respect for Gallatins softball program, and possibly by keeping GC players voted low or not at all to help ensure their own would make it. If your own district coaches will not vote for you, the others probably wont either.

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