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Covington Catholic 11 Holy Cross 3

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TOG: If Richard Skinner called it a error, then it has to be a hit.

My 2 yr grandson knows about sports than he does.

Based on the TOG's description of the play, that a hit.

If the outfield is shifted based on the hitter, then he is in position.

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Joe Woeste. Tiberi relieved him in the third.

 

 

If Tiberi was available to relieve why didn't he start?

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TOG: If Richard Skinner called it a error, then it has to be a hit.

My 2 yr grandson knows about sports than he does.

 

CBoy , you could not be more wrong.

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Since you are not getting alot of responses here I have to weigh in because I have been asked this before and this is my opinion.

 

I would score it as an error and I will tell you why.

Cheating out of position is the key here, this is a coaches or players decision and once you do this you sorta are giving up, well position. So, if a player is playing the position straight up, then a ball to either right center or left center could be construed as routine, so score it an error.

The wind theory is part of the game imo, I am assuming Maile is left handed hitter?, if so and the wind is blowing right to left, what the heck is the cf doing cheating to right center? Again, coaching or player error, score it an error.

And with all of this said, the other key here is the cf got a glove on it so that supports the whole play the kid straight up and not cheat and he catches it without question.

If he doesnt touch the ball and he is playing out of position and cheating then the argument for a base hit is pretty solid and it goes down as a hit and the either the player or the coach is charged with a mental error. JMO.

 

And all of this just based on your description. Had I seen the play in person, I may change my mind entirely. :thumb:

 

I get your thinking but it's simply not supported by the wording in the OBR book. You can't give an error because the player was out of position.

Congrats to the CovCath members of the 35th District Tourney team

 

Eric Schneider

Grant Schreiver

Ben Maile

 

The bottom of the order had four of CovCath ten hits, four of the CovCath eight walks and seven of the ten CovCath RBI's

 

Great job gentlemen!

 

When did the 35th district start doing all district tourney teams again? I haven't been to a 35th district Championship game in awhile, but I know back in 2004 they did not doing an all district tourney team in that district for some reason...

 

Which by the way congrats to both teams on making the Region, and for the players who earned the all district team honors.

The CF was shifted over into right center, but he started back on the ball, circled it, and then got his glove on it and had until he dove to the ground. It was misjudged and yes the wind had something to do with it. It is a 50-50 call. You could probably have 32 different MLB official scorers split down the middle on it. It wasn't just an error because he got his glove on it (because that doesn't always consititute an error and neither does not getting a glove on it, i.e. a ball going between someone's legs is an error even if a player didn't get a glove on it). I thought he should have caught it. Again a subjective call, just as is calling it a base hit.

And C-BOY78 I'd love to meet your grandson. Sounds like he'd make a great story.

- Richard Skinner

The CF was shifted over into right center, but he started back on the ball, circled it, and then got his glove on it and had until he dove to the ground. It was misjudged and yes the wind had something to do with it. It is a 50-50 call. You could probably have 32 different MLB official scorers split down the middle on it. It wasn't just an error because he got his glove on it (because that doesn't always consititute an error and neither does not getting a glove on it, i.e. a ball going between someone's legs is an error even if a player didn't get a glove on it). I thought he should have caught it. Again a subjective call, just as is calling it a base hit.

And C-BOY78 I'd love to meet your grandson. Sounds like he'd make a great story.

- Richard Skinner

Good one Skinny. I thought if the wind had not changed the flight of the ball it's an easy out. If the kids has to go to the ground I give him the benefit of the doubt. You are right, 50/50.
The CF was shifted over into right center, but he started back on the ball, circled it, and then got his glove on it and had until he dove to the ground. It was misjudged and yes the wind had something to do with it. It is a 50-50 call. You could probably have 32 different MLB official scorers split down the middle on it. It wasn't just an error because he got his glove on it (because that doesn't always consititute an error and neither does not getting a glove on it, i.e. a ball going between someone's legs is an error even if a player didn't get a glove on it). I thought he should have caught it. Again a subjective call, just as is calling it a base hit.

And C-BOY78 I'd love to meet your grandson. Sounds like he'd make a great story.

- Richard Skinner

 

 

:lol: on bold ... a boy sports genius eh, Skinny?

My vantage point it was an error for sure!

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