March 13, 201214 yr So what do you think? I agree with the school. What does the girl have to hide. Dont give me this free speech stuff, she is 12 and has no reason to be on facebook. Should schools be allowed to know the passswords to stop crimes or bullying. I mean it isnt like it is National Security. I would have no problem giving the school my kids passwords. How old do you have to be to have facebook? Red Tape - Up against the Wall! Should district be allowed to demand middle-schooler's Facebook password? Edited March 13, 201214 yr by mountain ref
March 13, 201214 yr First of all you have to be 13 to even have a Facebook page so there was a complete breakdown (ethics, rules, Facebook Terms of Service, etc.) on the part of the student, school, parents, and monitor for what appears to be weeks or months before the alleged incident took place. On just the case, from the little that is in that article I think the school is on real shaky ground.
March 13, 201214 yr Author But they did bring in the police to get the password, which would then bring it to an actual charge of some sort, like harassment, threating, etc.
March 13, 201214 yr I've got a problem with disciplinary actions taken against someone who criticizes a school official on a social network. How in the world is that in the realm of their jurisdiction? Just another example of why I don't have a Facebook account (though I do have a business one) and no child of mine ever would have one.
March 13, 201214 yr Author I've got a problem with disciplinary actions taken against someone who criticizes a school official on a social network. How in the world is that in the realm of their jurisdiction? Just another example of why I don't have a Facebook account (though I do have a business one) and no child of mine ever would have one. I dont have facebook either, I do know it creates a lot of drama for teens. Now days if someone gets criticized by a teen, that teen may act upon something and try to kill. Ever since Columbine, teens have to be taken serious on what they say. It isnt 1950 anymore.
March 13, 201214 yr Just another example of why I don't have a Facebook account (though I do have a business one) and no child of mine ever would have one. I am going to bust this out to a new thread. I hope we can revisit this one 20 years from now and hear your story!
March 13, 201214 yr I am going to bust this out to a new thread. I hope we can revisit this one 20 years from now and hear your story! :lol: Hopefully I'll be able to hold my head high! (Actually, I hope that demon entity known as Facebook no longer even exists!)
March 13, 201214 yr I dont have facebook either, I do know it creates a lot of drama for teens. Now days if someone gets criticized by a teen, that teen may act upon something and try to kill. Ever since Columbine, teens have to be taken serious on what they say. It isnt 1950 anymore. I agree with that sentiment, and if the remarks were threatening in nature I might be more inclined to roll with that. Saying she "hated" the monitor because "she was mean to me" doesn't quite fall in that category. Even less appropriate is suspension for then asking on Facebook who ratted her out.
March 13, 201214 yr Not a chance I would give them my Facebook password even if I had nothing to hide. It would have to be court ordered before I will give it up.
March 13, 201214 yr Under no circumstance, under no condition should anyone EVER have to surrend access to any private social media unless ordered to do so by a Court of Law.
March 13, 201214 yr Under no circumstance, under no condition should anyone EVER have to surrend access to any private social media unless ordered to do so by a Court of Law. I like your comment, but... what if there was good information on a FB account about a possible school shooting? Warrants normally take a few hours.
March 13, 201214 yr I like your comment, but... what if there was good information on a FB account about a possible school shooting? Warrants normally take a few hours. This is a very good question. In a case like that (and would need one of the BGP Legal folks to chime in) that would open the door to intent of the person and where the proper authorities would need to detain the individual/s involved until social media history can be investigated. The example I would be thinking of is: Student A sees the Facebook post of Student B saying that he is going to do harm to person/property. Proof would have to be shown (Let's say a screen shot of said post) to responsible authority. At this point, responsible authority takes measure to prevent said action. Only at that point can legal measures be taken to get information to show intent. I know that is kind of "fuzzy" but the main focus to prevent immediate harm, then take proper legal action to show intent.
March 13, 201214 yr If ever my child's school brought law enforcement into the picture, they better have me present before they even look at my child. That being said, this sounds like a matter that should have been handled by the parents. There were no threats made; no immediate danger.
March 13, 201214 yr I think that the school overstepped its bounds here. If I were the principal, I would call and talk to the parents about the issue of what was supposedly on the girl's account, but asking her for a password and calling in the cops is just overboard.
March 13, 201214 yr If ever my child's school brought law enforcement into the picture, they better have me present before they even look at my child. That being said, this sounds like a matter that should have been handled by the parents. There were no threats made; no immediate danger. Ever? Let's say your child "goes off." Starts slinging books and computers at people, shoving teachers and other students, hitting, etc. How should the school respond?
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