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This was a great game.. they came from behind to win. Here is the coverage

http://madisoncourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=18&SubSectionID=289&ArticleID=54207&TM=80893.77

From what I understand she will be back soon and it will make a big difference to the Lady Wildcats. !

The younger girls are getting a good chance to work on ball handling right now and that will pay off later this year and next.

Congrats to the Lady Raiders...Sounds like the hard work is paying off.

Congrats to Owen!

Congrats Panthers! Hannah Devine had 29 points!

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Shelby Co. travels to Carroll Co., unveiling the new coaching edition of the Lady Rockets.

Looking forward to seeing the Lady Panthers back in action!

rebels by 6...

Any word on Tori Wilhoit's( Williamstown ) knee. She was injured in a scrimmage at Scott co. last week and we were hoping it would end up not being serious. I have not seen any updates and wonder what everyone knows.

She is a great player and I was looking forward to watching her have a great Junior season.

I believe they are playing at the Scott County scrimmages this Saturday. There is a thread about that on the board with times etc.

Thank you for posting!

Carroll County will be there.!

Anyone have information on the Scrimmage in Scott County on 11-14. I know who my team is playing just wondered who else will be there?

Carroll will play Southwestern

I was really happy to see the ALL A this year. This gives the rural towns something to work toward. Same in BBALL.

Sounds like everyone has the same opinion, just different ways of saying it. I also do not think this is unique to Kentucky.

 

My daughter played club ball for four years. The vast majority of the girls were white, that is true.

 

Location, school size, community and personal wealth are all factors in who participates wherever you live. I know some girls who would love to play club, but have to work, or their parents simply cannot afford it.

 

That being said, there should still be the opportunity for the girls to get together and play, even if it is on a less competetive level. This is where parents come into play. If the desire is there and the commitment is there from players and parents, then all you need is a gym.

I agree, however..the gym is our problem. After V-ball season they are full with Basketball ( elementary, MS and HS boys and Girls) so they can not get on the schedule. During V-ball season the only gyms with nets (MS AND HS ) are used by the teams.

No money to rent or transport.

I wish it were more like BBALL where you just need a hoop to practice.

Yes I was at the State Tournament . My daughter helps coach a team that lost in the semis , and I still take exception with your blanket statement that volleyball is a " rich , white girls sport " Both teams that they defeated had black players in starting roles . As did teams that played in our District ( 35Th ) and Region ( 10Th ) . And I did check out UK 's volleyball team . There are at least two black players on the team . The same goes for Louisville's volleyball team . It might not be a majority but there are black players on many teams . Don't Marginalize them .

Not trying to minimalize anything, I am just talking about the majority and I did not say rich...I would take exception to that also. I mean well - off as in able to afford club ball. As far as race you are right there are some African American girls that are great but the Majority are white.

I have coached at a small school and this is the reality. I am not complaining, just being a realist. It seems that you think I am mad about it. I am not. It is the reality in Ky Volleyball right now. If you want to argue that it is not then that is fine, but if we are talking about how to get teams more even then this is a factor.

Look - I have coached and would love to see the small schools get better. My daughter plays and falls into this same category.

Tell the players on the undefeated Penn State team that Volleyball is a "well off white girls sport ", or for that matter any team that has played Penn State in the last couple of years .:popcorn:

Did you go to the state tourney.? I am talking about KY.

Check out UK's team or look at any local college roster. It is great that is not the norm for Penn St. but in Kentucky it is.

I disagree with you. There are certainly public school students that can't afford to play club sports, but that exists within the parochial schools as well. Many in the public school system are as able or even better able to afford the cost of club ball than those in the Catholic Schools. I would argue that the economic difference is based more on location than it is which type of school you go to.

 

Secondly, there are very few that start in the public middle school system and then switch to the private schools. Students at the private schools are there because that type of education is a priority that their parents are willing to sacrifice and pay for, not because they have a better volleyball team. That rarely becomes a priority only at the high school level. I would bet that there are more students that go from parochial middle schools to the public high schools than the other way around.

 

I think that the difference lies more with the dedication and early skill development that the parochial schools have. There are certainly public schools that are taking measures to catch up but these early programs have existed in the private schools for decades and it will take time for newer programs to catch up.

 

As far as building elite teams, success breeds success. Whether it be Notre Dame volleyball or Highlands football. That's not a dynamic that is exclusive to private schools. With the exception of the smaller independent schools, the public schools generally have much larger enrollments and resources available to them. A better question may be, "why do they do less with it?"

I disagree. You need to come to one of the small rural schools and understand the kids that are there. Too compare them to the kids you say their parents sacrifice and send them to Catholic schools is not even remotely a concept with most of the rural schools children. Their parents sacrifice to buy them lunch everyday.

Volleyball is a well off white girls sport. I am not being mean, I am honest. I coached for 4 years at the MS level and see it everyday. Club Ball is not even a remote possibility for these girls. Not to mention it is even hard to get Coaches that know what they are doing also.

I can understand how your arguments seem valid. I thought the same thing before I started Coaching but reality is this:

1. Sports are not a priority financially for these children.

2. There are limited facilities that must be used for school sports (for example basketball takes the gyms after V-ball season)

3. Most of the Coaches are in a learning curve also.

4. Small schools have to share their athletes with the other sports.

Basically, Tipton just made up a story and released it. I am not sure where Tipton went to school but that would be a quick way to fail Journalism 101.

His Editor should have a little egg on his face for letting a complete fabrication be printed in the paper. It makes you wonder if he has fabricated a few other little stories...

Can someone share the details of the scrimmage.? Do you have to get tickets in advance? After our tobacco spitting contest Saturday night, and then Sunday snake handling I want to head to the practice.

Is there any cost? Also where is Porcini's located? We would like to drive by and take some pictures for " Raving Redneck Magazine"

over 14,000 in attendance.

Did they say how many people are in attendance?

I was chanting at home.. so I guess that is 5 violations!

Does anyone have any insight into Spencer Co next year?. They always seem to not get discussed much but win a lot of games.

I understand but the districts are so uneven right now that something needs to be done.

In our area everyone has both now. I can not think of anyone close that does not at this time. Maybe in Eastern Kentucky?

Does anyone know if this is being considered. With some of the districts with 5 and 6 teams and others with 3, is there any thought to following the basketball districts?