Diogenes

One can always hope. After all, he was educated in HS by Xaverian Brothers.

And you are a fan of what school?

Ox, did you see this as Darth Vader visiting, or as a potential convert from the path of darkness to the path of light? :D

Well, we just will not see eye on this one. I believe that his participation in the game would have an impact. I attended the season opener for the Bombers. I have seen them play without him. I believe that his absence, obviously, enhances Trinity's ability to beat the Bombers. Any time a Division I recruit at a skill position does not play in a high school game, there is an impact. If the gist of your post is that you feel the Rocks have no chance whether he plays or not, that is the nub of our disagreement. As I have posted above, through experience I have learned to never count the Rocks out in a football game. At any rate, we will know the answer within hours. Good luck Rocks.

This morning's CJ indicated that Darius Ashley, X's star running back, who is being recruited by UL and a host if D1 schools, may still be out due to injury. Earlier this week it seemed that he was set to play. If he is still out, this could be a big break for the Rocks.

Do Catholic schools in Ohio compete for separate titles than do publics in football? For example, are Elder and Colerain playing for the same state title?

Yes, it is odd for the shoe to be on the other foot (for T or X or Male). X had a 2 game series with Moeller a couple of years ago (I am not suggesting an equivalence). IMHO it would benefit X, T and Male to regularly schedule the Cincy powers. I think Cincy St. X will be surprised at how well Trinity travels and shocked at how well they play. Good luck.

So far, they are 0-3. They lost to Doss (35-37), Bullitt East (7-27) and Providence (20-36). Next up: Owen County.

I adopt RP's theory in post 86. Also, in the recent past an underdog Trinity has had some success against St. X. Finally, in perusing Trinity supporters posts this year it has become apparent that the Rocks have an unusually talented team this year, and Trinity posters have often noted that their coach is unmatched. Why not pick Trinity? What say you? Some normally boisterous Rock fans have been unusually quiet on this thread. Do you care to venture a prediction in writing?

I watched X in their opener and they were impressive, sans Darius Ashley. Trinity is at X for this game. X has played a far more demanding schedule. Notwithstanding these facts, and ever the contrarian, I will pick the Rocks in a nailbiter, 27-24. As I noted earlier, you underestimate Trinity at your own peril. Good luck, Rocks, make a statement for Kentucky high school football.

It seems that this is a controversy with many St. X-Trinity games. :D

As per this rivalry, I am expecting a good game. Male has speed (shocking ) but X also has good overall speed. X has more depth, and X should exert itself late in the game. The injury situation for both teams should be negligible. X wins 34-20.

X will play the Generals, but only if Washington agrees to not play any juniors. :D

Did either team play juniors? :D

From what I have seen thus far this year I would take Coach at his word. The passing game has been erratic, with a large number of poorly thrown or dropped passes. Certainly, teams can win without a passing attack. Perhaps the best high school team in the past 20 years in this part of the country, 2004 Colerain, ran the ball almost exclusively. But this X team is no Colerain . To beat Male, Manual and Trinity (X's next three opponents) X is going to have to develop more consistency passing. TKE_, you can be sure that work is proceeding apace by the Tiger's eXcellent coaching staff to rectify this deficiency.

That is what I was inarticulately trying to say in my earlier post. Good win-and one with class!

Welcome to BGPreps, RAMWKUALUM. I also concur with RockPride's analysis.

I don't see it. HC has been drifting downward since Coach Reidinger was released. That, combined with an enrollment drop, has been problematic. A pity, really, because HC is an excellent school with a lot of good people involved.

The last time the Rocks played a powerful Cincinnati team was 2002, against an Elder team that would be the eventual Ohio state champion that year. Similar statements were made. Final score: Rocks 44-Elder 20! You underestimate Trinity at your own peril.

Is Ashley expected to play next week?

Trinity v. Cincinnati St. Xavier. Who wins and by how much? How is the Trinity injury situation? I saw Cincinnati St. Xavier in their opener, and their star running back Darius Ashley sprained an ankle early. He did not play last week when they dismantled number 5 nationally DeMatha. BTW, today they play the Tarblooders of Glenville, Ohio, ranked eighth in USA TODAY's preseason Midwest Region rankings, who earlier this year lost to Long Beach, Calif., No. 11 in USA TODAY's Super 25, 21-13. Ashley's status is uncertain for the Glenville game.

Very good. Congrats on a victory over an over matched but courageous team. Now on to Cincinnati against a very good team that will provide formidable opposition. I saw Cincinnati X play their opener and was impressed, but happily reminded their confident fans what happened the last time Trinity played a team ranked number one in Ohio.

As discussed above, the injury situation may be a factor in this game. The latest word is that X will be without the services of three players, two of whom appear headed for Bowl division (the old 1A) schools next year. Lex Cath may be without one starter, a possible eventual 1A player. Will this affect the outcome? Why or why not?

Flaget High School was opened on October 21, 1942. I believe that it closed June 6, 1974. The Flaget Braves were hard to beat!

I have done a decent amount of research on Hornung and tend to believe you are correct that he was the best football player ever in Kentucky to not win Mr. Football. Much like a prototypical Michael Bush, he could do it all and do it all well. He could pass, run, and kick. He had size (6 ft. 2 in., 215 lbs), speed, guile, and toughness. This thread is "Best players not to win Mr. Football". Indeed, he did not win Mr. Football because "Mr. Football" did not exist at the time. Had it existed, and had he not won, you, myself, and UKCATSFAN could organize a picket of the "Mr. Football" apparatus! Snippets regarding Hornung from an earlier thread on the Best High School Football player ever(Kentucky): "Most people don't realize he not only played QB at Flaget he also punted, kicked field goals, pats and even played some on defense, if it was a close game. In College at Notre Dame he played QB, HB, DE, punted, kicked off, kicked FGs, kicked PATs and was on the kick off return team. In fact in his final College game against USC he ran back a kick of 95 yards playing with TWO broken thumbs. He won the Heisman in 1956 (how many others from KY have won the Heisman?) His ability to "do it all" continued into the NFL...Most people don't realize he held the NFL record for the most points scored by an individual player in a single season for 46yrs until LaDaian Tomlinson broke it last year. Just an FYI the Packers only played 12 games in 1960 when it set the record and he played RB.-176pts Paul Hornung, Green Bay, 1960 (15-td, 41-pat, 15-fg) I might even venture to say he played on the best NFL team that ever existed the 1961 Packers team. He was like a greek god among men when he was in High School, he in his high School prime against any of the others mentioned in theirs, its no contest." "No less than Vince Lombardi said of Hornung:"Paul is tremendous down near the goal line. He's the finest man I've ever seen when he gets down there." His Notre Dame coach, Frank Leahy, said of the 6 ft. 2 in., 215 Ibs Hornung: "He runs like a mower going through grass." "And his kicking—why, when he reported to me as a freshman, he could punt 80 yds. and place-kick over the crossbar from 70 yds. out.""