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Also not one time have I said a negative word about the coaches at FD for promoting the football program and working hard. You are just looking for other things to bring up except saying that Frederick Douglass High School has a school within a school that no other in Fayette County has that has also attracted some highly talented football players into the school building. I don't understand why just admitting that is so hard to do.

Look I am not complaining about this. It is a parents job to do what is best for their kids in order for them to be successful. But other schools in the county that do not have a program like this which I truly believe is a good program it creates an advantage to attract students who might be excellent athletes. It also allows students to get their foot in the door without having to live in the FD district correct? Again this is not at the fault of FD but at the superintendent of Fayette County for not seeing what the ripple effects would be. When it was at its own location and students had to play sports at their resident district there was no advantage.

The issue if not every public school has a program like that to attract those two players which is an advantage they have over other schools. How do you not see that as an advantage?

When a program brings in two 3 star rated players that is what people pay attention to. If it just brings in some average basketball and baseball players then people don't pay that much attention to it.

That's two more D-1 candidates than some schools have had in 20 years or in their schools history. It sounds like a great program to have for young men if they are a athlete or not. I tip my hat for FD getting it in their building and somehow getting KHSAA to allow students that are enrolled at a independent school to play for FD. I would 100% use it to my advantage to if I was at FD.

Does the school count for student enrollment for Douglass for classification purposes?

So its a school inside another school and the students are allowed to participate in athletics? I know several school districts that have alternative education programs which are for students who are behind on credits or have circumstances in their lives that a normal school schedule doesn't work for in their district but those students are not allowed to participate in sports when they enroll at those schools.

Can you explain what the Carter G Woodson Academy is?

I couldnt agree more with the statement of "Coach what you know".

This thread isn't about Graves potentially dropping but about Coach Smith at McCracken. I am curious to see what offense he decides to run. McCracken in the past has been a spread team and under Coach Clark used a lot of spread/TE formations to run the ball successfully and then hit you over the top with some of the good WR they have had over the years. I know when he was at PT they were a wishbone team and were very successful doing it. When they tried to switch to more of a spread offense they struggled and he was out of a job the next season.

Since General Tire closed Graves has lost students/families living in Graves. Last I heard they were losing almost 100 students per year in the entire district. Several students that live in the county have chosen to attended Mayfield after attending Graves Middle School and several families that live on the county lines have taken kids to other schools over the years. The tornado has not helped the population what so ever and it is only going to get worse. Last number I heard of students in the high school was from a very reliable source and it is around 1,080 students.

ADA has been frozen so most districts numbers that are being reported are from 2019. I can tell you for a fact that Graves numbers are closer to 1,000 students than what you are saying at 1179 and they are losing more students consistently.

I can tell you with 100% accuracy that it is no where close to 1300 students.

Graves County barely has 1,000 student's in the high school and is losing more by the day. If they are going anywhere it will be to 4A.

I wouldn't call it that but yes that's what it is lol. He has to stay retired for 90 days because that's what the teacher retirement system says he has to do in order to draw his full pension and then return to the school system as a coach, classified employee, or as a certified part-time employee. I know plenty of teachers who retired for 90 days and then came back in some capacity at the school and were able to double dip. I think its a pretty silly rule if you ask me.

Why is that?

If this is true which it seems like you have credible sources then most coaches who are smart will not touch this job. They might as well go ahead and give the job to Mr. Huff which is seems like the plan was the entire time. Shame on the schools Admin for allowing a parent to cost a coach who seemed to me a good person and coach to lose his job. This is the reason why good coaches get out of coaching and the real losers are the players. No wonder BE is exploding with students. Who would want their kids to be a part of a toxic situation like this.

Atchley can flat coach and has proven to be able to build and turn programs around. I don't know about all the classroom issues that he has had in the past but his work on the field is impressive. I believe people deserve second chances and deserve the right to admit mistakes and change their ways. If he can do that then I'm not sure how long he stays at Frankfort but if you can keep him for a few years and let him get things going you will be in a better place than you were before he started for the next coach.

Names don't have to be dropped all the time. Coaches don't want their names being thrown around all the time as trying to leave their jobs unless they like the attention. This is probably the reason why Frankfort is struggling to hire somebody because the guys who interviewed don't want to be the 3rd or 4th choice by a committee. If they are smart they turn the job down because half the people who hired you probably didn't like you or didn't want you.

There are young coaches that have applied and interviewed for this job that resumes that blow some of the people being mentioned for this job out of the water. Leadership is important but you have to be able to coach and TEACH the game to kids. I could care less if a guy played at the next level or the NFL. It does not mean that you can teach and coach the game of football to 14-18 year old kids. The programs who just do basic things and win at a high level have the players to do that. Knowing how to adjust your scheme to fit what players you have and make adjustments weekly and in game is how you win. I'm not buying that a guy who was under Eddie James for a year and a half and walked out mid season because of a disagreement then spent one year under McKee as a freshman coach is ready to be a head coach of a varsity football team.

I wouldn't compare to many people with a guy like Mcvay who many people knew was one of the brightest offensive minds in football who comes from a coaching tree that has a lot of current NFL head coaches that are all successful right now. I agree that fit is important but at some point so is coaching. Talking in a interview and drawing cool plays on a whiteboard is awesome but it is much different on a Friday Night on the sidelines. A head coach with little to no play calling experience is going to struggle to manage a game unless they are able to bring in an OC and DC.

How can he have a good resume if he played at K-State, didn't finish the year at Franklin County, and spent 1 season as a freshman coach at Scott County? I have heard of some other names that applied and interviewed that have resumes that blow this out of the water if his only varsity season was a leaving halfway through the year. Heck there were more qualified candidates than the person they supposedly offered the job to who ended up at Shelby County and some of the fan base there doesn't seem happy with that hire.

Never said he was that why I referred to him as a unicorn lol. I believe they call him because why wouldn't you but unless an unreal amount of money was put on the table I think there is no way Coach Morris entertains this job unless it like it was last time where he used it to leverage Mayfield to give him more money lol.

That is an onion that has a lot of layers to it lol.

This is where a job starts to fall to the next person on the list until somebody says yes. A lot of guys who aren't desperate to be a head coach or desperate to get out of a bad situation aren't going to be willing to take this unless demands get met. Sort of puts Frankfort in a tough spot cause now they are the ones who might be in desperation mode with getting somebody hired. There are only 10 or 11 jobs posted that haven't made hires yet and some of those just came open and many people could view some of those as more attractive jobs than Frankfort as far as pay and resources go.