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Nope.....field goal attempt as well. :thumb:

Does the ball cross the plane of the end zone?? It is too hard to tell on the video. The news guys says, "caught in the end zone". I hope he was wrong in saying that?? If he is right and the ball did cross the goal line, it should have been a touchback....game over! I would hate to see a situation where the officials actually "gave the game away".

Not speaking for OFFSIDE....however, I would be willing to bet that he would agree that no flag for holding should be thrown in your situation. The hold at the 40 had no bearing on the runner at the 5.

NFHS Rule Book: Rule 9 Section 2 SECTION 2 ILLEGAL USE OF HANDS AND HOLDING ART. 1 . . . An offensive player (except the runner) shall not: a. Use a blocking technique which is not permissible by rule. (See 2-3-2, 3) b. Grasp or encircle any teammate to form interlocked blocking. c. Use his hands, arms or legs to hook, lock, clamp, grasp, encircle or hold in an effort to restrain an opponent. ART. 2 . . . The runner may not grasp a teammate. ART. 3 . . . A defensive player shall not: a. Use a technique that is not permissible by rule. (See 2-3-2, 4) b. Use his hands to add momentum to the charge of a teammate who is on the line of scrimmage. c. Use his hands or arms to hook, lock, clamp, grasp, encircle or hold in an effort to restrain an opponent other than the runner. d. Contact an eligible receiver who is no longer a potential blocker. PENALTY: Illegal use of hands or arms (Arts. 1a, 2, 3a, b, d) – (S42); interlocked blocking (Art. 1b) – (S44); holding (Arts. 1c; 3c) – (S42) – 10 yards. NFHS Rule Book: Rule 2 Section 3 SECTION 3 BLOCKING ART. 1 . . . Blocking is obstructing an opponent by contacting him with any part of the blocker’s body. ART. 2 . . . In blocking, a player may contact opponents with the arms or hands provided the technique is legal. The legal techniques are as follows: a. Closed or cupped hand technique: 1. The elbows may be inside or outside the shoulders. 2. The hands must be closed or cupped with the palms not facing the opponent. 3. The forearms are extended no more than 45 degrees from the body. b. Open hand technique. The hand(s) shall be: 1. In advance of the elbow. 2. Inside the frame of the blocker’s body; the frame of the blocker’s body is the front of the body at or below the shoulders. 3. Inside the frame of the opponent’s body, except when the opponent turns his back to the blocker during the block or after the blocker is committed to his charge. The frame of the opponent’s body is at the shoulders or below other than the back. 4. At or below the shoulders of the blocker and the opponent, except when the opponent squats, ducks or submarines during the block or after the blocker is committed to his charge. 5. Open, when the palm(s) are facing the frame of the opponent or when the forearms are extended beyond the 45 degree angle from the body. ART. 3 . . . The blocker’s hand(s) may not be locked nor may he swing, throw or flip the elbow or forearm so that it is moving faster than the blocker’s shoulders at the time the elbow, forearm or shoulder contacts the opponent. The blocker may not initiate contact with his arm or hand against an opponent above the opponent’s shoulder, but he may use his hand or arm to break a fall or maintain his balance. ART. 4 . . . An offensive player may also use his hands or arms: a. When he is a runner, to ward off or push any player. b. During a kick, to ward off an opponent who is attempting to block him. c. To push, pull or ward off an opponent when the ball is loose if he may legally touch or possess the ball if such contact is not pass interference, a personal foul or illegal use of hands. ART. 5 . . . A defensive player may also: a. Use unlocked hands, hand or arm to ward off an opponent who is blocking him or is attempting to block him. Page 25 2009 NFHS Football Rules Rule 2-4 b. Push, pull or ward off an opponent in an actual attempt to get at the runner or a loose ball if such contact is not pass interference, a personal foul or illegal use of hands. NOTE: When a player simulates possession of the ball, reasonable allowance may be made for failure of the defense to discover the deception. This does not cancel the responsibility of any defensive player to exercise reasonable caution in avoiding any unnecessary contact. ART. 6 . . . When a player on defense uses a hand or arm, the hand must be in advance of the elbow at the time of the contact and at the shoulder or below unless the opponent squats, ducks or submarines. ART. 7 . . . Blocking below the waist is making initial contact below the waist from the front or side against an opponent other than a runner. Blocking below the waist applies only when the opponent has one or both feet on the ground. ART. 8 . . . Chop block is a delayed block at the knees or below against an opponent who is in contact with a teammate of the blocker in the free-blocking zone. ART. 9 . . . Interlocked blocking occurs when one player grasps or encircles a teammate just prior to or while blocking an opponent.

NFHS Rule Book: Rule 2-22: Hurdling is an attempt by a player to jump (hurdle) with one or both feet or knees foremost over an opponent who is contacting the ground with no part of his body except one or both feet. "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit"

Sounds like a sideline warning?? Possibly the official throwing the second one didn't see the first one? R probably just decided to go with the warning.

BW played Dayton (No JV team) and Dixie played Scott (No JV team) on Friday night. Instead of neither one playing at all, they played each other.

Highlands has a perfectly marked turf field. A good officiating crew will try to start on a line every time on 1st down....if you start on a line and get to the line 10 yards further....FIRST DOWN....no measurement needed.

From the NCAA 2008 FB stat. manual Art 2 and 4... The rules are the same for high school stats. If the pitch is made within 1 yd of either side of the LOS then the RB gets credit for the entire play and yardage. If the QB runs down field and pitches he gets credit for a rushing attempt plus yardage and the RB gets no rushing attempt but credit for the rushing yardage after the pitch and the resulting TD if there is one scored. The same is true for a "Hook and Ladder" play. Let's say the ball is on the 50 yd line. >QB completes a forward pass to WR1 for 10 yds who laterals(which is not a high school FB term) to WR2 for a TD. >QB credited with completed pass for 50 yds and a TD >WR1 10 yd reception >WR2 50 yd TD from QB (no reception is credited for WR2) http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/Stats_Manuals/Football/2008%20Football%20Stats%20Manual.pdf

"This is how we used to do it when I played in the Ludlow Marching Panthers Band" :flame:

HUH-HUHHUH-HUHHUHHUH-HUH- HUHHUH-HUH-HUHHUH-HUHHUHHUH Shut up Beavis!!!

"Coach, You can't keep trying to steal the other teams balls." "I am not going to O.K. a ball for your team that has "Ryle" branded on it."

"I thought they said there was going to be a flyover after the national anthem?"

A play becomes dead when dead by rule. Notice the last sentence of rule 2-3: "Any loose ball continues to be a loose ball until a player secures possession of it or until it becomes dead by rule, whichever comes first." Although the whistle can cause the play to be over, the ball becoming dead by rule is what actually ends the play.

Also, 4-2-e-2: The ball becomes dead and the down is ended when any loose ball is on the ground motionless and no player attempts to secure possession. 2-3 (loose ball play definition) A loose ball is a pass, fumble or a kick. The terms "pass, "fumble" and "kick" are sometimes used as abbreviation when the ball is loose following the acts of passing, fumbling or kicking the ball. A loose ball which has not yet touched the ground is in flight. A grounded loose ball is one which has touched the ground. Any loose ball continues to be a loose ball until a player secures possession of it or until it becomes dead by rule, chichever comes first. I WAS NOT AT THE GAME NOR HAVE I SEEN THIS PLAY......with that being said, the covering official must not have ruled that the ball was dead by rule. If he had, he wouldn't have let K advance the ball.

NFHS: 6-2-7 "When any scrimmage kick is out of bounds between the goal lines or becomes dead inbounds between the goal lines while no player is in possession, or inbounds anywhere while opponents are in joint possession, the is awarded to R. Following an out-of-bounds kick, the ball is put in play at the inbounds spot unless R chooses a spot of first touching."

6-5-1: Any receiver may signal for a fair catch while any legal kick is in flight. Any receiver who has given a valid or invalid fair-catch signal is prohibited from blocking until the kick has ended.

NFHS: 8-3-1 After a touchdown, the scoring team shall attempt a try during which the ball is snapped from a spot designated by A anywhere between the inbounds lines on B's 3-yard line, unless moved by a penalty. This involves a scrimmage down which is neither numbered nor timed.

GEEZ......I thought I might actually beat you to one, OFFSIDE.

NFHS Rule: 6-2-3: Any K player may catch or recover a scrimmage kick while it is in or behind the neutral zone and advance, unless it is during a try.

you know what they say....."on any given night" But in this case......Absolutely NOT!

NFHS Rules 2.17.1 The free-blocking zone is a rectangular area extending laterally 4 yards either side of the spot of the snap and 3 yards behing each line of scrimmage. A player is in the free-blocking zone when any part of his body is in the zone at the snap. 2.17.2 Blocking below the waist is permitted in the free-blocking zone when the following conditions are met: a. All players involved in the blocking are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap. b. The contact is in the zone 2.17.5 the free-blocking zone disintegrates and the exception for a player to block below the waist and/or the exception for an offensive lineman to clip and /or block in the back is not to continue after the ball has left the zone.

Blocks below the waist are legal if the block occurs in the free blocking zone by a member of the offense who is on the line of scrimmage and against the defense who is on their line of scrimmage....the ball must also still be in the zone as well. In order for all of these things to be met....the block usually needs to happen immediately at the snap. If there is any delay before the blocker goes low, the ball has probably almost always left the zone, making the block illegal. For the record.....a "chop block" is a block that occurs below the waist on a defender that is already engaged by another member of the offense.

NFHS Rule Book Rule 10-5 Article 4: "If the offensive team throws an illegal forward pass from its end zone or commits any other foul for which the penalty is accepted and measurement is from on or behind its goal line, it is a safety."

7-Ludlow 5-Scott 3-Mason 2-Lloyd 1-Dixie Ludlow