swamprat

Guitar, piano, synthesizer and drums were all played by one of the two members of the duo. Their albums also featured horns, winds and skin percussion among many other instruments...

"Speakerboxxx/The Love Below" is the only hip-hop cd I have. Good stuff. :thumb:

In a single timeless moment

When the old was cast away

The new was born into a world of simple joy

And my life is still for living

Though it's seen through different eyes

And the knowledge of the truth's

A burden easy to bear

 

(Chorus)

 

Relentless, unchanging

Though the world is still before me now

I'm seeing forever

I will keep my heart and mind with you

So joyously I'm waiting for the day

Turn around

Turn around

It's on the other side

 

Feel the sound

Feel the sound

It's comin' from deep inside

 

It will fill you with emotion if you

Let it be your guide

 

So

 

Turn around

Turn around

It's on the other side

The game never ends

when your whole world depends

on the the turn of a friendly card.

"A Valid Path" the new CD from the Alan Parsons. They played the cut "We Play the Game" during their concert this evening and I knew I had to get it.

Okay let me do what I can to shed some light on the comments I made.

 

 

From a moral standpoint in a time of peace, which is something that in my opinion is suspect to speak of where conflict concerned, killing someone (taking the life of another) is oft considered the height of immorality. Ergo the worst thing that someone can do is to take the life of another. War consists, at its most basic level, as a semi-organized (at best) state of being in which life is being taken relatively often. Thus war is the height of immorality as well. All sides in a conflict engage in such activity during said conflict and as such there are no "good guys" in that regard. That is my point.

This is why I am amused at the concept of moral high ground when discussing war. We like to cloak it in a veil of morality to try and make it look like we are doing something other than what we are doing.

In reference to the WWII veterans and those men storming the beaches, fighting the Japanese and spending hours in sub-zero temperatures to destroy enemy industries; I admire and respect them for what they did. Yes they killed the enemy (and killing is not a good thing, even though it is sometimes necessary, no matter how you cloak it) and I am forever grateful for the sacrifices they made on behalf of their country and their fellow citizens. If not for them and what they did, then the world would likely have been worse of than it was. At the same time those who died on the opposing side felt they were fighting for as "just" a cause as we did. The majority of the German soldiers were not fighting for Hitler, they were fighting for Germany. They were fighting for their families and for their homes. The majority were no more evil than our own G.I.’s over there.

 

Although when looking at our “noble” and “moral” actions in Europe we can’t forget the leveling of the cities of Würzburg, Dresden and the monastery of Monte Cassino. Also the fact that we allied ourselves with a man who was as bad as Hitler should also say something for the “moral” high ground we took. That said while I agree with those who say the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima were necessary, I think to call them “moral” is somewhat off base. From a simple numbers perspective it was a wise move and the correct course of action. More would have died on both sides had we invaded Japan than died on account of those bombs. It was a choice that had to be made to end the conflict as quickly as possible. I have no problem with that choice.

I have spent nearly 20 years of my life studying weapons, war, conflict, its causes, effects and the overall impact on the development of the world. In all the time I have studied these are my conclusions. That said I am not anti-war and am far from a pacifist. I just dislike it when we try to take a "moral" stand when we are perpetuating death. The American obsession and idealism of the “good guys” and “bad guys” is irritating to me. The guys on the other side say the same thing, both can’t be right obviously, but can both be wrong? Of course from our own perspective we are right but at the same time they look at themselves the way we look at ourselves. Don’t try and disguise what it is, be honest about it.

 

 

Don’t take it for more than what it is. I am merely stating that the idea of calling someone the “good guys” in a war is suspect at best.

 

 

Do my comments make any more sense now?

Change the phrase "good guys" to "nice guys" and most of what you say makes perfect sense. We can be the "good guys", at least from our perspective, but you don't win wars being "nice guys".

 

Do I feel guilty about WWII? Hell no. We did what we had to do. You can spout morality all you want, but we did nothing "nice" when we killed 30,000 men, women, and children during the bombing of Hamburg, or over 100,000 in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Whether we invaded Japan or not, non-combatants were going to die. You can't be nice when you're attempting to force somebody into submission. What we did after the war is a different story, but to win it, we were not "nice guys".

 

As my father (US Army Cmd. Sgt. Major Ret., WWII, Korea, Vietnam) has said on many occasions regarding Iraq (he gets really hot about it), "We are trying to be nice guys over there and it's getting our boys killed for no good reason. We need to get the media out of there and let our guys do what they need to. It's ugly. It's war and it has to be done. Nobody here needs to see it, because most can't stomach it. If they're not going to do that, then bring them home."

Happy Birthday young man.

 

Have a great day.

 

Next year's going to be the fun one. :banana:

GTR

What's on your mind swampy? I'm wide awake and Ms GT is gone for the weekend...

I stopped thinking hours (Mrs S says years) ago. However, I fixed a little problem on the site and have just been skimming posts. I wish I could sleep. May give it a try here in a little while.

Just me.

An interesting article I found today:

 

http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/05/news/economy/refining_investments/index.htm?postversion=2007060517

 

Limited refinery capacity in the U.S. and no major player (oil company or deep-pocketed investor) will take the risk on building another one since they can't be sure gas prices will stay where they are. Congress is talking about raising Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards for cars and light trucks. Even GWB is now talking about reducing America's consumption of oil. With so much regulatory uncertainty, you'd have to be crazy to sink big bucks into a new refinery.

Careful, H. You're starting to sound awful greedy, there.

What's interesting as both sides seem to have moved on with their counsel.

Could Jeremy Foley be guilty of tampering in a legal sense?

Donovan signed his deal on Friday...correct?

Over the weekend he and Foley have a little pillow talk about coming back.

Donovan is property of the Magic...is Foley guilty of tampering, because all we are getting now out of the Florida camp is no comment. Has too much been said already?

It may have something to do with what is in that fine print at the back of the contract.

Tampering with what. The contract was already signed. No story here.

 

There is nothing harsh about this, so called, ban, either. He had to sign a 5 year non-compete. Big Woops! It's standard for most contracts in other businesses. If the Magic wanted to be harsh, they'd hold him to the deal. If it is a typical contract, it would have cost him a percentage of that $27 million (which he did not have yet) to get out of it. Now that would have been harsh.

 

For the record I am the farthest thing you can find from a University of Florida fan. However, the bottom line is there is no upside for Orlando to force Billy to keep his end of the contract. Why have a coach that does not really want to coach for you, and why beat up a guy that is beloved by a large majority of your fan base. What Orlando is doing (working this out) is good business.

All Out of Love by Air Supply. I just love the classics.

:laugh: :laugh:

Demand for oil is not just limited to American desires. I would guess that the biggest increases in demand would have to with the increased use of oil by other countries such as China.

True, but US consumption is up 3% and we use more than 10 times the amount of oil as the closest country.

Chaska knocked in the winning run in the 35th inning to win it 5-4. For the 2 games played Thursday and Friday, a total of 54 innings, the winning pitcher had 42 strikeouts and the losing one 29.

 

Amazing.

I just voted. (5 times) As of now we're at 37%

1st 45 I ever bought: Elton John's "Philadelphia Freedom"

45's are a whole new ballgame. The first one I bought was "Love Me Do" by the Beatles when I was 6.

Mr. Blue Sky by ELO

Now there's a coincidence. I'm listening to ELO's album "Eldorado" right now. Currently playing is "I Can't Get It Out of My Head."

My daughter got tickets for her and I to see Alan Parsons next month. I've been on a stroll down memory lane this evening while working, listening to The Alan Parsons Project complete catalog. Right now I'm listening to one tune most people know (at least the intro anyway).

 

"And now the starting line-up for your Chicago Bulls."

 

"Eye in the Sky" by The Alan Parsons Project.

Desperato by the Eagles, on 8 track.

Happy Birthday

Time to party!

:dancingpa :dancingpa :dancingpa :dancingpa

I got this in an email from my Uncle in E-Town just yesterday.

I stand corrected!:thumb:

From the mouth of Mrs. S.... "How in the hell can you remember something like that, when we spent 30 minutes looking for your car keys this morning?" :jump:

Ray Meyer

Gene Keady

lou conesecca

Dale Brown

Bobby Cremins

McGuire that coached for yrs at South Carolina

That would be Frank McGuire. However, before going to SC, he coached North Carolina to a 32-0 season winning the NCAA Championship in 1957.

 

As far as the former LSU coach....

 

"I was worried about losing until I looked down the floor and saw Dale Brown. Then I knew we had a chance." - Bobby Knight

I meant they had never hired a UK graduate. Hall played one season at UK before transferring to Sewanee. But I know what you're saying!

I hate to nit-pick and it's not a big deal, but the OC in me begs for this to be correct.

 

Hall transferred to Sewanee, but returned to Kentucky to complete his BA, graduating in 1955. UK Alumni Association However, I see your point.

 

It's just my opinion, but if they were going to get a tested, tried and true, coach that had been a UK player, I believe they would have gone after Pat Riley before Pelphrey or Ford.