Are more technicals being called?

[Jim Schue]

I've seen quick Ts on the part of a few refs over here in the 5th Region, and heard that similar things were going on over in the 17th (there were four in the Central Hardin-John Hardin game, all on CH). In all cases, they have been in response to overly physical play by players.

 

While I understand that it's the postseason and emotions are high, why start doing this stuff now, after already setting a precedent for allowing everything during the regular season? The 5th Region is well-known for rough, physical play, both in boys' and girls' games, so to start doing this now seems to be confusing the players, as this stuff hasn't been called all season until now.

 

Is this going on elsewhere?

[Mustang]

For the first time in my 40some years around high school basketball, last night I saw a coach and an official go nose to nose and chin to chin in a heated argument, just like Lou Pinella out there arguing with the home plate umpire. It occured between quarters at the Brossart - Campbell County girls 37th District game.

 

The Brossart coach, upset that his player was hit in the back by an opposing player, was giving the official the what for, when the official got up in the coaches face and the two went toe to toe. No technicals called, although I expected one to come in from the man's partners, just a good old cheek to cheek full-fledged argument between two guys.

 

Normally an official will give the coach a quick comment and move on, or else stick him, but these two were going at it like two boxers at a weigh-in.

 

Overall, I think the technicals policy varies from region to region. In the 9th where all of the officials want to be your buddy, it is sometimes nearly impossible to get T'd up, whereas in the 10th/11th the Bluegrass Officials are much more professional and are quicker with the trigger.

[NKY Bandit]

A 'T' was huge in the Ryle vs. Boone district semi. Called with >1 minute to play and Ryle down 3. From what I could see, the Ryle coach deserved the T- in the first two minutes of the game. To let a guy act like that all game and then stick him with 54 seconds to play is ridiculous.

 

Stick him early. Tell him to shut up and sit down. Run him early if you have to. If you get fed up with less than a minute to go, it's too late, swallow the whistle and let the kids determine who wins/losses.

[Mustang]

In the 9th where all of the officials want to be your buddy, it is sometimes nearly impossible to get T'd up, whereas in the 10th/11th the Bluegrass Officials are much more professional and are quicker with the trigger.

In re-reading my post, I make a reference to the Bluegrass officials being "much more professional" than 9th Region officials. That was not my intent. The 9th Region officials are professionals, and many of them are friends of mine. I am simply comparing styles, and perhaps should have used the word "businesslike" in reference to the Bluegrass officials. 9th Region officials will allow you to talk to them and plead your case moreso than the Bluegrass officials who want to be left to do their jobs and normally don't want to hear it.

[Clyde]

In re-reading my post, I make a reference to the Bluegrass officials being "much more professional" than 9th Region officials. That was not my intent. The 9th Region officials are professionals, and many of them are friends of mine. I am simply comparing styles, and perhaps should have used the word "businesslike" in reference to the Bluegrass officials. 9th Region officials will allow you to talk to them and plead your case moreso than the Bluegrass officials who want to be left to do their jobs and normally don't want to hear it.

 

Glad you clarified that. Most officials aren't out looking for someone to T. If they are they need to get out. However, each group is filled with individuals so there is no blanket statement that applies. Trust me, the 9th has some that have less tolerance than the group as a whole and will whack people quickly.

 

As to Bandit's post earlier unless you know every detail it's hard to say if it was the right call when Alan(I'm assuming he was talking about the boys game) was T'd. Did they say a magic word? Have they been warned? Was it an assistant who yelled at the official (major no-no)?

 

To the original question I have not noticed more Ts this year as compared to past years.

[Ed]

I've seen quick Ts on the part of a few refs over here in the 5th Region, and heard that similar things were going on over in the 17th (there were four in the Central Hardin-John Hardin game, all on CH). In all cases, they have been in response to overly physical play by players.

 

While I understand that it's the postseason and emotions are high, why start doing this stuff now, after already setting a precedent for allowing everything during the regular season? The 5th Region is well-known for rough, physical play, both in boys' and girls' games, so to start doing this now seems to be confusing the players, as this stuff hasn't been called all season until now.

 

Is this going on elsewhere?

 

I happened to go to the 17th district game last night, and saw what happened. John Hardin was awarded 8 FTs for technicals on Central Hardin. The first was on a player for hanging on the rim after a dunk. Then the coach rushed the floor and one was assessed to him. After continuing to argue another was put on him. The player said something from the bench and another was put on him. I thought the coach was supposed to leave after two technicals, but the CH coach never left the bench.

[Clyde]

I happened to go to the 17th district game last night, and saw what happened. John Hardin was awarded 8 FTs for technicals on Central Hardin. The first was on a player for hanging on the rim after a dunk. Then the coach rushed the floor and one was assessed to him. After continuing to argue another was put on him. The player said something from the bench and another was put on him. I thought the coach was supposed to leave after two technicals, but the CH coach never left the bench.

 

 

If he didn't leave he didn't get two direct Ts.

 

Maybe one of them was on bench personnel which is an indirect T to the head coach.

 

KHSAA only shows the one player as being ejected.

[LCDAWGS19]

Every official has a "magic word". For many it's profanity...for some, other words just set them off.

 

I knew of one official who's magic word was "terrible". If you said "that's a terrible call, X" you were getting rung.

[Clyde]

Every official has a "magic word". For many it's profanity...for some, other words just set them off.

 

I knew of one official who's magic word was "terrible". If you said "that's a terrible call, X" you were getting rung.

 

As a general rule if the call is terrible it's nothing. If you the official are terrible then there's a good chance of a T.

[LCDAWGS19]

I got T'd for saying THAT'S a terrible call...the first time.

 

The second time I did tell the official he was terrible. I got an early trip to the locker room. I apologized immediately after the game for my immature behavior. The guy was a good official, but missed that one. Still, no excuse for me to degrade him personally...especially since I had known him for years.

[Clyde]

I got T'd for saying THAT'S a terrible call...the first time.

 

The second time I did tell the official he was terrible. I got an early trip to the locker room. I apologized immediately after the game for my immature behavior. The guy was a good official, but missed that one. Still, no excuse for me to degrade him personally...especially since I had known him for years.

 

A good official is over that once the game is over.

[LCDAWGS19]

A good official is over that once the game is over.

 

 

It was. He had another of our games maybe a week later and it was like it never happened.