December 16, 201114 yr Author ^ It was an idea suggested to save money. It was determined to be a bad idea. It was dropped. What's the problem here? When has the left been interested in saving money ?
December 16, 201114 yr That the white house would even suggest something so stupid.. Did "The White House" suggest it or did "some guy who works at the White House" suggest it? It sounds like this was something floated at a meeting and that it was universally disliked.
December 16, 201114 yr cammando ... it seems pretty obvious that you reached too far on this one. The credibility of your post and link are shot down and you ignore facts to try and argue your point as being valid. Open your mind and consider that you missed on this one. I don't read all your attack threads (boy who cried wolf) but when I saw the title on this one I had to take a look because it seemed so out there. Support for veterans is something Obama speaks about often and I would have been shocked if he were in favor of anything that was not supportive of veterans. So I am not surprised to see this one has no merit. Also, pre-emptive response here ... I know by replying this way I immediately get the liberal label from you and perhaps others. Wrong. I vote for Republicans in every election so work on another attack response before trying to throw your canned liberal name calling at me.
December 16, 201114 yr Did "The White House" suggest it or did "some guy who works at the White House" suggest it? It sounds like this was something floated at a meeting and that it was universally disliked. According to the thread title, "Obama Wants." Present tense.
December 16, 201114 yr Try sticking to the issue... What does it matter if it was today or yesterday or several years ago. Typical liberal responses. If we're talking in general and not saying that the President IS TODAY promoting this then I say he needs to tread lightly. The initial plan was conceived as a way to lower costs to taxpayers. Obviously taxpayers are looking to lower costs. However, if it somehow jeopardizes the vets' existing private healthcare policy as in they may get dropped due to the amount of the cost to the insurer then it cannot go through. We put these folks in harms way and did so, in some people's minds, without proper forethought. We owe it to them to make sure their recovery is fully covered. It has to be on our dime. The only way I would be for it is if we knew the private insurer would not drop them. Lastly, I always know someone has lost a debate when they throw around pejoratives.
December 16, 201114 yr If we're talking in general and not saying that the President IS TODAY promoting this then I say he needs to tread lightly. The initial plan was conceived as a way to lower costs to taxpayers. Obviously taxpayers are looking to lower costs. However, if it somehow jeopardizes the vets' existing private healthcare policy as in they may get dropped due to the amount of the cost to the insurer then it cannot go through. We put these folks in harms way and did so, in some people's minds, without proper forethought. We owe it to them to make sure their recovery is fully covered. It has to be on our dime. The only way I would be for it is if we knew the private insurer would not drop them. Lastly, I always know someone has lost a debate when they throw around pejoratives. Clyde, you're giving way too much credit. I don't think this one ever advanced to debate status.
December 16, 201114 yr Author What "debate" did I lose... The white house suggested it... Why does it matter when they did ?
December 16, 201114 yr Author While we're at it, let's go back and see which political paragons supported poll taxes. Southern Dems. supported the poll tax. From 1890 to 1908, starting with Mississippi, Southern Democratic legislators created new constitutions with provisions for voter registration that effectively completed disfranchisement of most African Americans and many poor whites. They created a variety of barriers, including requirements for poll taxes, residency requirements, rule variations, literacy and understanding tests, that achieved power through selective application against minorities, or were particularly hard for the poor to fulfill..
December 16, 201114 yr What "debate" did I lose... The white house suggested it... Why does it matter when they did ? You were either ignorant or dishonest in your initial post.
December 16, 201114 yr Author You were either ignorant or dishonest in your initial post. Again, why does the date matter?
December 16, 201114 yr Author cammando ... it seems pretty obvious that you reached too far on this one. The credibility of your post and link are shot down and you ignore facts to try and argue your point as being valid. Open your mind and consider that you missed on this one. I don't read all your attack threads (boy who cried wolf) but when I saw the title on this one I had to take a look because it seemed so out there. Support for veterans is something Obama speaks about often and I would have been shocked if he were in favor of anything that was not supportive of veterans. So I am not surprised to see this one has no merit. Also, pre-emptive response here ... I know by replying this way I immediately get the liberal label from you and perhaps others. Wrong. I vote for Republicans in every election so work on another attack response before trying to throw your canned liberal name calling at me. Where is the reach... The broadcast gives a good inside on how Obamas white house thinks. You would not even know something so stupid was suggested if not for my post...
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