What is the line on this fight?

 

+120 Cain vs. Brock -150

 

I think. Good value on Brock, IMO.

It's been proven, in his short MMA career, that Lesnar doesn't make the same mistake twice. He got subbed by Mir, and then trained to avoid the sub for the rematch. He got his chin seriously tested against Carwin so I don't think that he'll want to box with Velasquez.

 

I take Brock by 2nd round stoppage due to ground and pound. I just think that he's so massive and such a freak, that he'll wear Velasquez down early by staying on top of him then, pound him out when he can.

 

Later.

 

P.S. I also hope that Hamill KOs Ortiz.

It's been proven, in his short MMA career, that Lesnar doesn't make the same mistake twice. He got subbed by Mir, and then trained to avoid the sub for the rematch. He got his chin seriously tested against Carwin so I don't think that he'll want to box with Velasquez.

 

I take Brock by 2nd round stoppage due to ground and pound. I just think that he's so massive and such a freak, that he'll wear Velasquez down early by staying on top of him then, pound him out when he can.

 

Later.

 

P.S. I also hope that Hamill KOs Ortiz.

 

There's been a lot of talk about Cain's cardio, that he never gets tired. I think that is contingent upon him being able to keep the fight standing...if he can't avoid/stop Brock from taking him down, he'll wear down and/or get finished. He's going to be expending a lot of energy if Brock gets on top of him...whether it's defending himself or getting back to his feet. I don't care how good your cardio is, it will fatigue you to struggle with a guy who outweighs you by 30+ pounds.

There's been a lot of talk about Cain's cardio, that he never gets tired. I think that is contingent upon him being able to keep the fight standing...if he can't avoid/stop Brock from taking him down, he'll wear down and/or get finished. He's going to be expending a lot of energy if Brock gets on top of him...whether it's defending himself or getting back to his feet. I don't care how good your cardio is, it will fatigue you to struggle with a guy who outweighs you by 30+ pounds.

 

Especially when they're a former All-American wrestler....

It wouldn't be a shock to see Cain win, but I don't think he will. I think the perception is skewed a bit based on each fighters last fight...Brock nearly gets KO'd against Carwin and Velasquez KO's Big Nog in impressive fashion. I think Cain's win is overvalued and I think Carwin is being undervalued. Nobody in any division has heavier hands than Shane Carwin. Brock is the first guy to take a shot from him and not wake up wondering where he was at...that in itself should tell you that Brock can take some punishment. Cain Velasquez may be a better technical striker and a more versatile striker, but no way does he possess the power of Shane Carwin. I'm not sure Cain has the power to back Brock off like Carwin had.

 

About Big Nog, the guy is obviously past his prime. Let's not forget that Frank Mir finished him before Cain did, and Mir isn't exactly known for being a knockout artist. I'm not sure how much a win over Nogueira means anymore with regards to being an elite heavyweight. It's similar to Chuck Liddell...several guys got a big bounce from beating him after Rampage did, but in hindsight, how impressive are those wins now. From Rampage on, Chuck has won one fight, lost one decision, and suffered 4 KO's that were pretty much one punch and done.

 

Velasquez has certainly looked impressive at times, but most good fighters do when they are fighting inferior competition. His two best wins are his last three fights...Kongo, Rothwell and Nogueira. Since joining the UFC, Lesnar's only fight at that level would be Herring, IMO...Mir, Couture and Carwin are all superior opponents to what Cain has fought.

 

Ask yourself this...what would we be saying about Lesnar if his last three fights had been Kongo, Rothwell and Nogueira? He would have dominated those guys just as easy.

 

I still think Shane Carwin is the biggest threat to Brock Lesnar's reign in the heavyweight division.

 

That's exactly what I was thinking. If Shane Carwin couldn't finish Brock I certainly don't see Cain being able to.

Looks like I was wrong...:lol:

Looks like I was wrong...:lol:

I think there is a lot of that after this one.