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Mason Co.-St. Patrick Hard Feelings Continue

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I think the hard feelings part is from the Mason fans possibly losing a good player to St Pat. Usually they are getting the players not losing them.

 

There you guys go again. I never said I had hard feelings, just telling you guys what happened. Some of you guys are going stop me from posting stuff on Mason Co. because some things that all Mason fans are always whining or crying. Anyone from this area knows that Mason and St Pat did not play during the regular season last year or this year due to some issues they have had. That is why the title the way it is. Any school that loses a star player is probably not happy about but it is always better when it is Mason, Right. Geez!!!!!!!!

There you guys go again. I never said I had hard feelings, just telling you guys what happened. Some of you guys are going stop me from posting stuff on Mason Co. because some things that all Mason fans are always whining or crying. Anyone from this area knows that Mason and St Pat did not play during the regular season last year or this year due to some issues they have had. That is why the title the way it is. Any school that loses a star player is probably not happy about but it is always better when it is Mason, Right. Geez!!!!!!!!

 

On the first bolded....you titled your thread "hard feelings continue".....really!!!!!!!!! Are you referring to someone else other than yourself having hard feelings? If so maybe you should have clarified that in your post.

On the second bolded....I think (just my opinion) the non-scheduling of the last two seasons probably had to do with St. Patrick defeating Mason by thirty in the district opener in 2008. Seems there was a lot of hard feelings after that game and that's when Mason would no longer schedule a regular season game with St Pat. So where do the bad feelings on the St Pat end come into play? Heck their (St Pat) coach has asked a different Mason County player to play with a summer team consisting of several St Pat players for the last two summers and the St Pat players didn't seem to mind. Doesn't seem like there are are too many "hard feelings" on the St. Pat side. I would guess if you asked those MC players they will tell you that they enjoyed playing on those teams and did not experience any "hard fellings" from the St Pat players.

There you guys go again. I never said I had hard feelings, just telling you guys what happened. Some of you guys are going stop me from posting stuff on Mason Co. because some things that all Mason fans are always whining or crying. Anyone from this area knows that Mason and St Pat did not play during the regular season last year or this year due to some issues they have had. That is why the title the way it is. Any school that loses a star player is probably not happy about but it is always better when it is Mason, Right. Geez!!!!!!!!

 

The Ball seems to be solely in Mason County's court. As Mason grad I find it hard to believe the animosity that has grown from St. Patrick having the nerve to field such fine young ladies basketball team.

The Ball seems to be solely in Mason County's court. As Mason grad I find it hard to believe the animosity that has grown from St. Patrick having the nerve to field such fine young ladies basketball team.
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Mason Co and St. Pat's both have fine varsity coaches. In my experience Mason has a huge amount of politics, bickering and infighting that goes on between parents at times, but more so in the middle school level. St. Pat's have more of a "we're all in this together" atmosphere. I've had kids at both schools and speak from my personal experience.

For the record, it is not an objective truth that private school education is a better education than public school education. There are indeed less distractions in a private school. Less discipline issues. Is the curriculum more challenging, probably. But I would say that there is a wider range of lessons learned in a public school than a private school. I might even say that, generally speaking, the teachers in a public school are more qualified and capable than the teachers in a private school. My experience (which is not a lot but a decent amount) has shown me that teachers and students in a private school struggle very much in diverse situations which has an extreme measure of self accountability.

I might even say that, generally speaking, the teachers in a public school are more qualified and capable than the teachers in a private school. My experience (which is not a lot but a decent amount) has shown me that teachers and students in a private school struggle very much in diverse situations which has an extreme measure of self accountability.

 

LOL. I'm sure you could cherry pick examples each way. There's a reason that public schools and the NEA are scared to death of school vouchers and school choice. And, there's a reason the parents in places like Cincinnati pay more for their children to attend a private school than it costs to attend U.C.

 

You're final sentence is vague and ambiguous enough as to be meaningless. "diverse situations", "extreme measures", "self accountability"?? I've yet to see a public school teacher or administrator be held accountable for anything. They're reaction is always circle the wagons and protect our own.

I've yet to see a public school teacher or administrator be held accountable for anything. They're reaction is always circle the wagons and protect our own.

 

I understand what you are saying, yet still disagree. But the last sentence is ridiculous.

I understand what you are saying, yet still disagree. But the last sentence is ridiculous.

 

My children range for 39 to 14 years old and have attended public and private schools in various districts in two states. I stand by what I said through experience. What's ridiculous is what teachers get away with many times.

...I might even say that, generally speaking, the teachers in a public school are more qualified and capable than the teachers in a private school. My experience (which is not a lot but a decent amount) has shown me that teachers and students in a private school struggle very much in diverse situations which has an extreme measure of self accountability.

 

I do not think that is the case. Many of the teachers that work in a private school are a lot of times retired teachers from public schools. I spent time in both public and private schools as a student and as an employee and some of the best teachers that I have seen are the retired teachers working in a private school.

 

You're final sentence is vague and ambiguous enough as to be meaningless. "diverse situations", "extreme measures", "self accountability"?? I've yet to see a public school teacher or administrator be held accountable for anything. They're reaction is always circle the wagons and protect our own.

 

I wonder what system you are talking about, because it is very odd for a school system to "protect our own", especially if it means protecting a tenured teacher/administrator or a lawsuit.

I do not think that is the case. Many of the teachers that work in a private school are a lot of times retired teachers from public schools. I spent time in both public and private schools as a student and as an employee and some of the best teachers that I have seen are the retired teachers working in a private school.

 

I wonder what system you are talking about, because it is very odd for a school system to "protect our own", especially if it means protecting a tenured teacher/administrator or a lawsuit.

 

I'm not going to go through a list of schools, etc. It wouldn't be fair to the ones mentioned as it might lead people to believe those schools are worse than others, which is probably not the case. Here's a rather extreme case in another state. Oh, I was once told by a school administrator that a lawsuit wouldn't bother him, they deal with lawsuits all the time. LOL!! I told him they must really be doing something wrong if they're having lawsuits that often.

 

Interesting that you point out that retired public school teachers go to private schools. Why do they take retirement rather than keep teaching at a public school? That's also not my experience. There may be one or two retired but not very many. However, your comment supports my argument. The more experienced teachers are going to private schools.

 

I'm not saying schools never take action, but it's like pulling teeth and painfully slow at best. I was once part of a group that complained about an abusive middle school basketball coach who was essentially a volunteer paid $1 a year so he could use the school facilities as an "employee." It took three fourths of the parents having a meeting with the school district superintendent and they didn't take action that year but just didn't let him return the next.

 

My daughter once texted her mother that she was being humiliated and verbally abused by her coach in the locker room before a game. Her mother said something to the coach after the game. (Nothing foul, no cursing.) The school took the coaches side because her mother didn't observe the "24 hour rule" where you're supposed to wait 24 hours to complain. So, if your child is being abused, you're supposed not protect her but sit and wait 24 hours.

Oh, I was once told by a school administrator that a lawsuit wouldn't bother him, they deal with lawsuits all the time. LOL!! I told him they must really be doing something wrong if they're having lawsuits that often.

 

Interesting that you point out that retired public school teachers go to private schools. Why do they take retirement rather than keep teaching at a public school? That's also not my experience. There may be one or two retired but not very many. However, your comment supports my argument. The more experienced teachers are going to private schools.

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Comments on your two statements here.

 

First, people see the school district as a big pot of money that they can sue and get some sort of check from them. Parents are constantly threatening lawsuits because they think that 1) it will make the administration cave; 2) they can get some sort of check out of it via their child.

 

Second, a NKY private school principal made a comment once that the difference between his school and our public school was he could write a check to reimburse the problem child's tuition and send them our way while we have no option but to deal with them.

 

One of my favorite teachers of all time retired from public school and went to a private school. She had to write a discipline referral ONCE in the first two years she was there. BIG difference is the support that private school parents give to the schools where the public schools parents want to blame the teacher.

I find all of these posts interesting! I don't remember one comment about the students who are playing High School Basketball! Good Luck to both Mason Co and St Pat teams.

 

Parents "bicker" too much! It is always about them and not the players!

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