January 28, 201016 yr Assumedly the thing he is best at his playing baseball. To me, it makes little to no sense to walk away from something you have a distinct advantage or knack for, to do something that in all likelihood you won't be as good or successful at. I liken it to me quiting being an accountant, and deciding I want to be a teacher. While it may be viewed as a more noble profession, it's one I almost assuredly wouldn't be as good at. Comparing athletic talent to priesthood and being accountant to a teacher is simply not even a plausible comparison. And, how does it not make sense? If he knows that baseball is not what he wants to do, and he knows priesthood is, it's right for him. He isn't doing it because it's a more noble calling. You don't become a minister, priest, nun, etc because "it's more noble". It's more than a profession...it's a calling. BTW...technically, he could become a priest and still play baseball.
January 28, 201016 yr Author He should follow his dream if that is what he wants but why not play for a while make some money and donate it to the church somehow. Seems like that would be a lot of help for some church. Lots of people can write checks to the church. Very few are called to lead the flock. Trust me. Priests have much more of an impact on people than the money that the church brings in.
January 28, 201016 yr Author Assumedly the thing he is best at his playing baseball. To me, it makes little to no sense to walk away from something you have a distinct advantage or knack for, to do something that in all likelihood you won't be as good or successful at. I liken it to me quiting being an accountant, and deciding I want to be a teacher. While it may be viewed as a more noble profession, it's one I almost assuredly wouldn't be as good at. Again, where does it say or who says that we have to do what we're best at? How have you already determined that he will not be a success as a priest? Your black/white world simply is unrealistic.
January 28, 201016 yr Again, where does it say or who says that we have to do what we're best at? How have you already determined that he will not be a success as a priest? Your black/white world simply is unrealistic. I never said it said that anywhere. It's of my belief that people should do the things that they are best at. I am allowed to have my own opinions still, am I not? Go ahead and show me where I said he won't be a success as a priest? I'll be waiting for quite a while because I never did, but as you love to do, you once again have decided to try and put words in someone elses mouth.
January 28, 201016 yr I never said it said that anywhere. It's of my belief that people should do the things that they are best at. I am allowed to have my own opinions still, am I not? Go ahead and show me where I said he won't be a success as a priest? I'll be waiting for quite a while because I never did, but as you love to do, you once again have decided to try and put words in someone elses mouth. You stated that you assumed the thing he could do best was baseball. You said it wasn't a good decision to leave. Yet, you've decided it wasn't a good decision based upon an assumption of what he was best at. How can you definitevely say it wasn't a good decision?
January 28, 201016 yr You stated that you assumed the thing he could do best was baseball. You said it wasn't a good decision to leave. Yet, you've decided it wasn't a good decision based upon an assumption of what he was best at. How can you definitevely say it wasn't a good decision? My goodness, I'm guess I'm going to have to repeat this again... IN MY OPINION, it isn't a good decision. Obviously, none of us have any way of knowing for certain one way or the other, but TO ME, it's a dumb decision. From your statements, it seems you're assuming it wasn't a bad decision. How can you definitively say it wasn't a bad decision?
January 28, 201016 yr I haven't said it was a good decision or a bad decision. That's up to the individual. Just as if you did walk away from accounting to become a teacher, it wouldn't be for me to say it was a good or bad decision. Those are intensely personal decision. It's not for me to judge, as it's not for me to live.
January 28, 201016 yr Author I never said it said that anywhere. It's of my belief that people should do the things that they are best at. I am allowed to have my own opinions still, am I not? Go ahead and show me where I said he won't be a success as a priest? I'll be waiting for quite a while because I never did, but as you love to do, you once again have decided to try and put words in someone elses mouth. To me, it makes little to no sense to walk away from something you have a distinct advantage or knack for, to do something that in all likelihood you won't be as good or successful at. . What basis do you form your opinion?
January 28, 201016 yr What basis do you form your opinion? Well from the article it appears he was well on his way towards being a successful major leaguer who would have a nice long career. Just making it to the majors means you are among the elitest of the elite at the game of baseball. In the top 1 percentile I'd imagine. Could he be in the top 1 percentile of priests? I mean, sure, I guess he could, but what are the chances that an individual is among the elitest of the elite in two separate unrelated fields. Extremely rare IMO. Now will you please show me where I said he wouldn't have success as a priest? I'm still waiting....
January 28, 201016 yr Author Well from the article it appears he was well on his way towards being a successful major leaguer who would have a nice long career. Just making it to the majors means you are among the elitest of the elite at the game of baseball. In the top 1 percentile I'd imagine. Could he be in the top 1 percentile of priests? I mean, sure, I guess he could, but what are the chances that an individual is among the elitest of the elite in two separate unrelated fields. Extremely rare IMO. Now will you please show me where I said he wouldn't have success as a priest? I'm still waiting.... To answer your second question, you questioned his ability to be successful without basis. Now let me make sure I'm following your logic. A 23 yr old kid in A ball who hits a lot of home runs is "well on his way towards being a successful major leaguer who would have a nice long career?" Really. All players who have success in A ball are destined for MLB success? You don't believe that. Baseball is filled with minor league all-stars who never make it up or , if they do, they fail. As I've stated previously, your belief that you should do what you're best at is misguided. You're also discounting the concept of hearing the call.
January 28, 201016 yr To answer your second question, you questioned his ability to be successful without basis. Now let me make sure I'm following your logic. A 23 yr old kid in A ball who hits a lot of home runs is "well on his way towards being a successful major leaguer who would have a nice long career?" Really. All players who have success in A ball are destined for MLB success? You don't believe that. Baseball is filled with minor league all-stars who never make it up or , if they do, they fail. As I've stated previously, your belief that you should do what you're best at is misguided. You're also discounting the concept of hearing the call. Obviously, you aren't comprehending what I said. I said he most likely wouldn't be AS successful. It was a comparison between two things. Once again you're trying to put words in my mouth, that simply weren't there. Will he make a fine priest? Most likely he absolutely will. Will he obtain the level of success as a priest that he seems able to as a baseball player? Probably not. Hopefully this clears it up. I'm absolutely stunned I have to keep breaking everything down. You are correct that I'm discounting the concept of "hearing the call." I don't particularly believe that that occurs, so why would I factor that in...
January 28, 201016 yr Obviously, you aren't comprehending what I said. I said he most likely wouldn't be AS successful. It was a comparison between two things. Once again you're trying to put words in my mouth, that simply weren't there. Will he make a fine priest? Most likely he absolutely will. Will he obtain the level of success as a priest that he seems able to as a baseball player? Probably not. Hopefully this clears it up. I'm absolutely stunned I have to keep breaking everything down. You are correct that I'm discounting the concept of "hearing the call." I don't particularly believe that that occurs, so why would I factor that in... The bolded, UKM...that's what's throwing your whole argument out of whack. How in the world can you equate the success of a priest to the success of a baseball player. Heck, why would that even be attempted? How is being a great baseball player considered more successful than being a great priest. You have to keep "breaking everything down" because there's absolutely no logic.
January 28, 201016 yr The bolded, UKM...that's what's throwing your whole argument out of whack. How in the world can you equate the success of a priest to the success of a baseball player. Heck, why would that even be attempted? How is being a great baseball player considered more successful than being a great priest. You have to keep "breaking everything down" because there's absolutely no logic. I never said being a great baseball player is considered being more successful than being a great priest. Look, this is pointless, I've broken it down multiple times to a very understandable level. If you guys don't understand, that's not my problem.
January 28, 201016 yr Author Obviously, you aren't comprehending what I said. I said he most likely wouldn't be AS successful. It was a comparison between two things. Once again you're trying to put words in my mouth, that simply weren't there. Will he make a fine priest? Most likely he absolutely will. Will he obtain the level of success as a priest that he seems able to as a baseball player? Probably not. Hopefully this clears it up. I'm absolutely stunned I have to keep breaking everything down. You are correct that I'm discounting the concept of "hearing the call." I don't particularly believe that that occurs, so why would I factor that in... 1. You failed to answer how you can make the jump that you made about him being "well on his way." 2. How do you define level of success when comparing a priest to a baseball player? 3. So you think that priests who say they heard the call were mistaken? They didn't really hear a call?
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