As I'm sure you are trying to point out, a theory is only scientific if it has a test for wrongness. You can't prove something doesn't exist, only that sometime does.

 

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"Creation" is not science, so I don't know where there are creation scientists, though some probably do call themselves that. Creation is a biblical belief.

 

The view you start with affects your conclusion, too. You've decided that evolution is wrong, yet as earlier posts show, you're opinion was based on misconceptions as to what evolution is - the popular mantra of the anti-evolutionists.

 

Two final things. I, too, believe that science points to God. Secondly, I'd like to see more detail about what you mean by this: I get the impression that you are trying to take the majority opinion on science and explain faith in such a way as to make them compatible...

 

Sorry...I'm done for now.

Sorry...I'm done for now.

 

Ok. I was just curious about your...analysis...of my opinion.

I saw a bumper sticker today, it said "The more you know, the less you believe". I'm not saying that is my opinion, but I thought it relevant to the discussion.

Ok. I was just curious about your...analysis...of my opinion.

 

Just the impression I got. No...analysis...of my opinion is necessary. :thumb:

 

Really no different than this comment...

 

I think, 5wide, you are trying to separate science and your Christian faith.

Just the impression I got. No...analysis...of my opinion is necessary. :thumb:

 

Really no different than this comment...

 

No ill intent was meant. I simply didn't understand what you meant by your comment. You certainly have the right to perceive my intent however you want. I just sometimes like to explain myself better if someone's perception is incorrect. :thumb:

Just for me.

 

When I was in college, I was smart. Don't believe me, just ask me at that time. I was impressed with my intelligence and my knowledge that I was learning in college. And I didn't have much use for God nor Jesus.

 

Now that I am older, I might not be as smart, but I am much, much wiser.

 

And I see that my intelligence and my pride at that time was a false bravado. My non-use of God was that I was caught up in how smart I thought I was and how much I was impressed with me and my intelligence of things.

 

I might not have any more intelligence and maybe even less than I did then but that has nothing to do with the wisdom I now possess through the love of Jesus Christ.

 

Too many of us get caught up in how much we can do and how it is all about us and don't see the forests through the trees.

 

It is pretty obvious that there had to be a God to create all that we see on this planet, this galaxy and this universe. Disregarding God is like seeing Mt. Rushmore and thinking it got there because of erosion happened to create it.

 

Since those days, my knowledge/intelligence has tried to keep rearing it's ugly head and standing in my way of having faith and belief in Christ as my Lord and Savior and as God as my ultimate love.

Just for me.

 

When I was in college, I was smart. Don't believe me, just ask me at that time. I was impressed with my intelligence and my knowledge that I was learning in college. And I didn't have much use for God nor Jesus.

 

Now that I am older, I might not be as smart, but I am much, much wiser.

 

And I see that my intelligence and my pride at that time was a false bravado. My non-use of God was that I was caught up in how smart I thought I was and how much I was impressed with me and my intelligence of things.

 

I might not have any more intelligence and maybe even less than I did then but that has nothing to do with the wisdom I now possess through the love of Jesus Christ.

 

Too many of us get caught up in how much we can do and how it is all about us and don't see the forests through the trees.

 

It is pretty obvious that there had to be a God to create all that we see on this planet, this galaxy and this universe. Disregarding God is like seeing Mt. Rushmore and thinking it got there because of erosion happened to create it.

 

Since those days, my knowledge/intelligence has tried to keep rearing it's ugly head and standing in my way of having faith and belief in Christ as my Lord and Savior and as God as my ultimate love.

 

Beautiful post . . . and much food for thought!:thumb:

Just for me.

 

When I was in college, I was smart. Don't believe me, just ask me at that time. I was impressed with my intelligence and my knowledge that I was learning in college. And I didn't have much use for God nor Jesus.

 

Now that I am older, I might not be as smart, but I am much, much wiser.

 

And I see that my intelligence and my pride at that time was a false bravado. My non-use of God was that I was caught up in how smart I thought I was and how much I was impressed with me and my intelligence of things.

 

I might not have any more intelligence and maybe even less than I did then but that has nothing to do with the wisdom I now possess through the love of Jesus Christ.

 

Too many of us get caught up in how much we can do and how it is all about us and don't see the forests through the trees.

 

It is pretty obvious that there had to be a God to create all that we see on this planet, this galaxy and this universe. Disregarding God is like seeing Mt. Rushmore and thinking it got there because of erosion happened to create it.

 

Since those days, my knowledge/intelligence has tried to keep rearing it's ugly head and standing in my way of having faith and belief in Christ as my Lord and Savior and as God as my ultimate love.

 

I don't disagree with anything you said. However, I want to add that God gave us intelligence for a reason.

I don't disagree with anything you said. However, I want to add that God gave us intelligence for a reason.

 

I don't disagree with that either,

BUT, when Solomon could have anything in the world, he asked for wisdom. God was so impressed with his choice that he gave Solomon that and everything else too.

 

Not sure if intelligence without wisdom is wasted.

I don't disagree with that either,

BUT, when Solomon could have anything in the world, he asked for wisdom. God was so impressed with his choice that he gave Solomon that and everything else too.

 

Not sure if intelligence without wisdom is wasted.

 

Certainly, it is wasted. Intelligenced without action is also wasted, IMO.

No ill intent was meant. I simply didn't understand what you meant by your comment. You certainly have the right to perceive my intent however you want. I just sometimes like to explain myself better if someone's perception is incorrect. :thumb:

 

No problem. :thumb:

Here's some interesting food for thought, from a Christian perspective...

 

How do we reconcile the belief in a millions or billions of year old earth with the gospel and the Bible?

 

Here's the problem...

 

The Bible tells us in the New Testament that Adam was the first man, and that sin, and consequently death, entered the world through him. It also gives us a genealogy of Adam to prevent any speculation that he may have been a billion years old.

 

So, how can we believe that there was a world before Adam with death, decay, animals eating meat (which the Bible tells us didn't happen until after the flood), etc...if that's the case, then death was around before Adam, contrary to the message of the Gospel in the New Testament.

 

The two don't really mesh...

 

Any thoughts?

Here's some interesting food for thought, from a Christian perspective...

 

How do we reconcile the belief in a millions or billions of year old earth with the gospel and the Bible?

 

Here's the problem...

 

The Bible tells us in the New Testament that Adam was the first man, and that sin, and consequently death, entered the world through him. It also gives us a genealogy of Adam to prevent any speculation that he may have been a billion years old.

 

So, how can we believe that there was a world before Adam with death, decay, animals eating meat (which the Bible tells us didn't happen until after the flood), etc...if that's the case, then death was around before Adam, contrary to the message of the Gospel in the New Testament.

 

The two don't really mesh...

 

Any thoughts?

 

I don't understand how the two don't mesh.

I don't understand how the two don't mesh.

What do you mean? I think 5wide brings up very valid points.