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Smoltz rips Braves for release of Glavine

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Fact or opinion, it was still a dirty way to do a guy, a million dollars involved or not.

 

I love how people on here always point out the obvious in others posts. Just post guys, just post.

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He said his release was “totally financially-driven, whether it’s they didn’t want to pay me the million dollars that I would have been due to go out there and pitch and pitch one pitch, one inning, one game and get hurt - and I’m very understanding that that’s a possibility.”

 

Glavine said that the more likely scenario involved Wednesday’s trade that brought Pittsburgh outfielder Nate McLouth to the Braves.

 

“In order for them to pull this deal off, they had to get some money somewhere, and they got the money from releasing me,” he said.

 

This says it all, a dirty way to do a guy that poured his heart and soul out on that field for your organization!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fact or opinion, it was still a dirty way to do a guy, a million dollars involved or not.

 

I love how people on here always point out the obvious in others posts. Just post guys, just post.

 

Thankfully, anyone can post whatever they want as long as they stay within the rules of Bluegrasspreps.

 

And it was not dirty. What else should they have done? They evaluated him, he wasn't good enough, so they released him. Let's stop making this more than it is.

Thankfully, anyone can post whatever they want as long as they stay within the rules of Bluegrasspreps.

 

And it was not dirty. What else should they have done? They evaluated him, he wasn't good enough, so they released him. Let's stop making this more than it is.

Seems to me, after reading all of this thread, that by you saying that it was not dirty, that you are just stating your opinion, correct?

 

Perhaps, the ones making it more than it is, should realize who they are!

 

This release was about Nate McLouth, plain and simple!

Seems to me, after reading all of this thread, that by you saying that it was not dirty, that you are just stating your opinion, correct?

 

Perhaps, the ones making it more than it is, should realize who they are!

 

This release was about Nate McLouth, plain and simple!

 

Yes I am stating my opinion. I have not followed up any of my statements with, "And that is fact".

 

As for the second sentence in your post...

 

What?

Yes I am stating my opinion. I have not followed up any of my statements with, "And that is fact".

 

As for the second sentence in your post...

 

What?

 

Here we go, always the constant coming back and forth. Some things just cannot be let go. Now, I am guilty of what I despise! You surely did not back anything up with "And that is a fact", so I guess in the end you were right or maybe not. I think it really doesn't matter in the end.

 

I feel if someone takes the time to really read these posts the idea would be understood. I agree, fact was probably a poor choice of wording there.

 

However, the definition of Fact: A fact is a pragmatic truth, a statement that can, at least in theory, be checked and either confirmed or denied. Facts are often contrasted with opinions and beliefs, statements which are held to be true, but are not amenable to pragmatic confirmation or denial.

 

So in the end, the consequences and the very real effects of what the Braves did by releasing Tom Glavine, agree w/the move or not, are very vital components of the true meaning of truth!!!!!!

Here we go, always the constant coming back and forth. Some things just cannot be let go. Now, I am guilty of what I despise! You surely did not back anything up with "And that is a fact", so I guess in the end you were right or maybe not. I think it really doesn't matter in the end.

 

I feel if someone takes the time to really read these posts the idea would be understood. I agree, fact was probably a poor choice of wording there.

 

However, the definition of Fact: A fact is a pragmatic truth, a statement that can, at least in theory, be checked and either confirmed or denied. Facts are often contrasted with opinions and beliefs, statements which are held to be true, but are not amenable to pragmatic confirmation or denial.

 

So in the end, the consequences and the very real effects of what the Braves did by releasing Tom Glavine, agree w/the move or not, are very vital components of the true meaning of truth!!!!!!

 

I find that very hard to argue with, flat out excellent point. Right on! :thumb:

The Braves and their GM--John Schuerholz have now issued an apology to Tom Glavine and that is a fact!

The Braves are now a better team by this move.

 

Of course they're going to issue an apology. It's all a PR move, does John Schuerholz really care? Doubt it.. Do fans get off his back b/c of this apology. Yup..

Here we go, always the constant coming back and forth. Some things just cannot be let go. Now, I am guilty of what I despise! You surely did not back anything up with "And that is a fact", so I guess in the end you were right or maybe not. I think it really doesn't matter in the end.

 

I feel if someone takes the time to really read these posts the idea would be understood. I agree, fact was probably a poor choice of wording there.

 

However, the definition of Fact: A fact is a pragmatic truth, a statement that can, at least in theory, be checked and either confirmed or denied. Facts are often contrasted with opinions and beliefs, statements which are held to be true, but are not amenable to pragmatic confirmation or denial.

 

So in the end, the consequences and the very real effects of what the Braves did by releasing Tom Glavine, agree w/the move or not, are very vital components of the true meaning of truth!!!!!!

 

You do know that a message board is primarily for discussion, and sometimes debate, right?

 

As for the last two paragraphs of your post...

 

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Facts are contrasted with opinions and beliefs. You provided an opinion, not fact. Are you agreeing with that?

The Braves and their GM--John Schuerholz have now issued an apology to Tom Glavine and that is a fact!

 

Congrats, but that still doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you and your opinions on this situation.

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The Braves and their GM--John Schuerholz have now issued an apology to Tom Glavine and that is a fact!

 

Fact is that John Schuerholz is not the GM anymore. Frank Wren is the GM and seems to have started this whole mess.

 

The Braves are now a better team by this move.

 

Of course they're going to issue an apology. It's all a PR move, does John Schuerholz really care? Doubt it.. Do fans get off his back b/c of this apology. Yup..

 

I'm sure if anyone does it is John Schuerholz that cares. This didn't happen much, if at all, while he was GM of the Braves....Glavine and JS had a close friendship then.

You do know that a message board is primarily for discussion, and sometimes debate, right?

 

As for the last two paragraphs of your post...

 

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Facts are contrasted with opinions and beliefs. You provided an opinion, not fact. Are you agreeing with that?

 

I do not have the time to explain it to you, I laid it out there, now it is up to you to take it from there.

 

Read the post, try to understand it, and you will see the point that is being made. I 1000% understand that facts are contrasted w/opinions and beliefs. I love the debate part of this board when it is done in the correct manner. Most of the time it is, but not always!

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Little typo!

I agree that this mess was started by Frank Wren. I would argue that John Schuerholz does really care. If you knew anything about the man, you would know that about him!

Congrats, but that still doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you and your opinions on this situation.

 

Thanks for the pat on the back, was not really looking for that. :dancingpa

 

However, I could care less if anyone agrees w/me to be totally honest. That is not why I debate or post on certain issues. Seems to me in the end, I was justified and so was Tommy Glavine. Some will call it a PR move and maybe it was, but sometimes I like to believe their is just good in people. This being one of those times! :thumb:

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