We have major problems - Obamas stimulus plan is not for everyone

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opxuUj6vFa4&eurl=http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=352050

 

 

This is going to get crazy

[ladiesbballcoach]

We just had a similar debate in another thread about racial comments like this.

Sad to see Reich not wanting to help all construction workers but rather those that he deems politically helpful.

[Clyde]

Racial comments?

 

I'd suggest you guys do some more research and not just rely on the snippets quoted by your favorite pundits.

 

Even if you don't do research there is no way you can hear the quotes and think that somehow white males are going to be excluded.

 

What exactly is the issue here?

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Racial comments?

 

I'd suggest you guys do some more research and not just rely on the snippets quoted by your favorite pundits.

 

Even if you don't do research there is no way you can hear the quotes and think that somehow white males are going to be excluded.

 

What exactly is the issue here?

 

 

Did you watch the video?

[Lucky Charms]

Did you watch the video?

 

So, this is how "wealth redistribution" works...:puke:

[Clyde]

Did you watch the video?

 

Yes, thrice.

 

What part of the actual quotes are bothersome to you?

[Mr.Network]

I don't want to drive my family across a bridge (infrastructure) that is built by unskilled, non professional, long-term unemployed labor.

 

Forget black or white, what part of this makes any sense?

[Clyde]

Can we all agree that no one in their right mind would say that bridges should be built by unskilled workers? Does anyone really believe that's what Reich is advocating?

 

His point is that in all areas , not just construction, it doesn't make sense to give aid that only goes to the people already IN the labor force in that particular field. If anyone would take just a second to do more than listen to Rush's take on this or to only look at a darn Youtube video you would see that Reich says that the key to success for the entire economy is to build the middle class. So, in his opinion, the govt should provide aid not JUST to those already working (ie construction workers which are dominated by white men) but also to those that aren't (minorities, long-term unemployed, women). You would also see , if you took a second to educate yourself, that he also cited "professionals" in that same hearing. Of course, Rush and the youtube poster didn't mention that so....

 

He said if there aren't enough people to do the professional jobs then the only thing the stimulus will do is increase the wages of those that CAN. He is of the belief that if you use the stimulus to bring others into the field , be it construction or I.T. or whatever, the whole country wins because it puts more people to work and grows the middle class.

 

Debate all you wish about his concept of bringing more people into the workforce but don't fall prey to those that are dim-witted or have their own agenda.

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Yes, thrice.

 

What part of the actual quotes are bothersome to you?

 

1 - this job not go to high skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers

 

2 - the state legislature wants their fingerprints on everything that goes through

 

3 - you don't have to be worried what the middle class will do

 

My problem with one is - Why wouldn't you want professionals building anything, and why say WHITE male construction workers? Are we only going to allow minorities to build anything?

 

2 - Charles Angel obviously wants his fingerprints on this, but wouldn't the state legislature know better than him what needs to be done?

 

3 - What exactly does this mean? That the middle class is too busy working their butts off to notice the money they are handing out to on welfare or those who are not skilled in anything?

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Can we all agree that no one in their right mind would say that bridges should be built by unskilled workers? Does anyone really believe that's what Reich is advocating?

 

His point is that in all areas , not just construction, it doesn't make sense to give aid that only goes to the people already IN the labor force in that particular field. If anyone would take just a second to do more than listen to Rush's take on this or to only look at a darn Youtube video you would see that Reich says that the key to success for the entire economy is to build the middle class. So, in his opinion, the govt should provide aid not JUST to those already working (ie construction workers which are dominated by white men) but also to those that aren't (minorities, long-term unemployed, women). You would also see , if you took a second to educate yourself, that he also cited "professionals" in that same hearing. Of course, Rush and the youtube poster didn't mention that so....

 

He said if there aren't enough people to do the professional jobs then the only thing the stimulus will do is increase the wages of those that CAN. He is of the belief that if you use the stimulus to bring others into the field , be it construction or I.T. or whatever, the whole country wins because it puts more people to work and grows the middle class.

 

Debate all you wish about his concept of bringing more people into the workforce but don't fall prey to those that are dim-witted or have their own agenda.

 

 

It will increase those wages but sounds to me like he only wants to hire minorities to fill the demand that would create. Supply and demand will bring in more workers, that is common sense.

 

Are you calling me dim-witted?

[Clyde]

It will increase those wages but sounds to me like he only wants to hire minorities to fill the demand that would create. Supply and demand will bring in more workers, that is common sense.

 

Are you calling me dim-witted?

 

JD, I'll urge you to do some research on this one. He in no way "only wants to hire minorities to fill the demand."

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JD, I'll urge you to do some research on this one. He in no way "only wants to hire minorities to fill the demand."

 

 

I will.

[Clyde]

1 - this job not go to high skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers

 

2 - the state legislature wants their fingerprints on everything that goes through

 

3 - you don't have to be worried what the middle class will do

 

My problem with one is - Why wouldn't you want professionals building anything, and why say WHITE male construction workers? Are we only going to allow minorities to build anything?

 

2 - Charles Angel obviously wants his fingerprints on this, but wouldn't the state legislature know better than him what needs to be done?

 

3 - What exactly does this mean? That the middle class is too busy working their butts off to notice the money they are handing out to on welfare or those who are not skilled in anything?

 

JD, find the transcript and ignore the commentary posted on the youtube. The commentary doesn't match up with the actual words said and/or actual quotes are eliminated from the video.

[Mr.Network]

It will increase those wages but sounds to me like he only wants to hire minorities to fill the demand that would create. Supply and demand will bring in more workers, that is common sense.

 

Are you calling me dim-witted?QUOTE]

 

I was wondering that, myself. The funny thing is that I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh and the first time I saw the interview was not on YouTube. In fact, I heard that comment and came to the conclusion all by myself that it is stupid to build/re-build the country's infrastructure with unskilled, long-term unemployed labor. There is usually a reason that the long-term unemployed are unemployed.

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JD, find the transcript and ignore the commentary posted on the youtube. The commentary doesn't match up with the actual words said and/or actual quotes are eliminated from the video.

 

 

Will do that also.