A junior college refers to a non-bachelor degree college. So 2 yr.

 

Vincennes University in Indiana grants Bachelor degrees, but athletics are Juco NJCAA.

Vincennes University in Indiana grants Bachelor degrees, but athletics are Juco NJCAA.

 

I don't understand how that works? Is it a junior college or a university?

Athletics are independent entities within a college or university. Any school may designate how their athletic programs are run, whether it be only intramural, club, Juco I,II,III, NAIA I,II, III or NCAA I,II,or III. The problem within the university is that the athletes will only have two years to compete at the school. If they choose to go into a Bachelor program at that school, their competitive athletic career is over. They can still transfer to any other school the same as a 2-year Juco. I think that VU is NJCAA Division II

Interesting, i've learned something new. I should have put "usually" then.

The coaching I can't speak for but, alot of your best athletes and players don't make the grades for D1 college so that's another reason why they go to a JUCO school. MLB scouts know this.

 

Interesting, I didn't know this. I still think a D1 player will get more looks than a JUCO from the MLB scouts.

Interesting, I didn't know this. I still think a D1 player will get more looks than a JUCO from the MLB scouts.

 

That is completely untrue. First, DIs run from Arizona State to Morehead State. The talent in the coaching ranks depends on the school, the funding depends on the school, the talent of the players varies greatly, etc. You cannot compare a top level DI to a low level DI.

 

The same is said for a JUCO. JUCOs also have different divisions just as NCAA does. The coaching, the roster sizes, the talent, etc. varies greatly. Some JUCOs are a talent hotbed. They are simply the place that a player may go to weigh options - perhaps he wasn't drafted high enough in his opinion. Perhaps he had an injury and doesn't want to be locked into three years of NCAA, so he go the JUCO route to fully rehab/play and be drafted after the first year. MANY JUCOs have connections and ties to certain schools as well as working with certain scouts. If you've ever attended any of the higher JUCO games, a regional or world series you will see scouts packed in there.

 

Also, the comment that you will play sooner at a JUCO. Again, this is a broad statement that does not hold true. You MAY play sooner. You may also play sooner at Morehead than you would at Arizona. There are many things that must be considered when looking at the ability to play anywhere. That is a true evaluation of your talent along with the school that you're interested in. How do you honestly compare? What is the need at your position? What is the size of the roster? Do they RS players on a regular basis? Do they have players regularly drafted leaving holes to fill. There are so many issues to consider that it can be truly mind boggling for a young player and his family. The experiences can also vary so much from family to family.

 

Just one last thought - I in no way am insulting Morehead State. Great potential there I've always felt. Just attempting to show the differences in DI as in all levels of baseball from the top tier on down to whatever you may consider the low tier of each level of play.

BG, well said. Getting scouted and drafted, is about ability. If you are JUCO, DIII, DII, D1, NAIA the key is your talent. College Coaches will communicate with professional scouts, if a player has potential.

 

These same College Coaches, communicate with High School Coaches, to evaluate if a player can play in College. Getting exposure from High School to College, is not easy, unless close proximity to several colleges.

I absolutely agree, BG!:thumb:

JUCO route is the way to go if you can't afford a major program, because major D-1 prgrams give the majority of thier scholarships to pitchers. JUCO also helps a prospect get notices especially if the recruit wasn't noticed much out of high school.

JUCO route is the way to go if you can't afford a major program, because major D-1 prgrams give the majority of thier scholarships to pitchers. JUCO also helps a prospect get notices especially if the recruit wasn't noticed much out of high school.

 

Very true about giving a player another opportunity for exposure. However, if that's what's driving the player to JUCO, he needs to do his homework and pick one where he will truly have an opportunity to play. JUCO does not automatically mean playing time.

 

Also, remember that certain JUCOs (primarily in CA) do not belong to the NJCAA and don't fund scholarships. Also many JUCOs that do belong to the NJCAA thus being ALLOWED to fund 24 scholarships may not provide housing which would require a player to pay and find his own. For the right player finding the right JUCO, JUCO can be a godsend financially.

 

NCAA now requires DIs to fund a minimum amount of scholarship to a player receiving funds. I'm sure someone can remember the amount, but the intent is to make things more even across the board and cut out the "book money" offers.

Very true about giving a player another opportunity for exposure. However, if that's what's driving the player to JUCO, he needs to do his homework and pick one where he will truly have an opportunity to play. JUCO does not automatically mean playing time.

 

Also, remember that certain JUCOs (primarily in CA) do not belong to the NJCAA and don't fund scholarships. Also many JUCOs that do belong to the NJCAA thus being ALLOWED to fund 24 scholarships may not provide housing which would require a player to pay and find his own. For the right player finding the right JUCO, JUCO can be a godsend financially.

 

NCAA now requires DIs to fund a minimum amount of scholarship to a player receiving funds. I'm sure someone can remember the amount, but the intent is to make things more even across the board and cut out the "book money" offers.

 

In baseball it's defintely a better route if you know what your are doing.

One example would be Nick Markakis of the Baltimore Orioles. I remember reading a story about him being a high draft pick by the Reds out of High School. Of course, at that time, the Reds didn't offer enough for him to sign so he went to a JUCO. The next year the Reds drafted him again, and he didn't sign. I believe he ended up being a two time JUCO player of the year and was a first round pick the following year with Baltimore and signed.

 

Do you think the Reds missed the boat on this one????

I understand about dreams, but getting a great education is what kids should really be worried about! How many people actually make a living playing baseball that played HS or even major D1 ball? If the kid is that good, he will get a D1 offer or if he really, really that good, he will get a MLB offer! If you have the talent, or if you have true potential, the scouts will find you!

That is completely untrue. First, DIs run from Arizona State to Morehead State. The talent in the coaching ranks depends on the school, the funding depends on the school, the talent of the players varies greatly, etc. You cannot compare a top level DI to a low level DI.

 

The same is said for a JUCO. JUCOs also have different divisions just as NCAA does. The coaching, the roster sizes, the talent, etc. varies greatly. Some JUCOs are a talent hotbed. They are simply the place that a player may go to weigh options - perhaps he wasn't drafted high enough in his opinion. Perhaps he had an injury and doesn't want to be locked into three years of NCAA, so he go the JUCO route to fully rehab/play and be drafted after the first year. MANY JUCOs have connections and ties to certain schools as well as working with certain scouts. If you've ever attended any of the higher JUCO games, a regional or world series you will see scouts packed in there.

 

Also, the comment that you will play sooner at a JUCO. Again, this is a broad statement that does not hold true. You MAY play sooner. You may also play sooner at Morehead than you would at Arizona. There are many things that must be considered when looking at the ability to play anywhere. That is a true evaluation of your talent along with the school that you're interested in. How do you honestly compare? What is the need at your position? What is the size of the roster? Do they RS players on a regular basis? Do they have players regularly drafted leaving holes to fill. There are so many issues to consider that it can be truly mind boggling for a young player and his family. The experiences can also vary so much from family to family.

 

Just one last thought - I in no way am insulting Morehead State. Great potential there I've always felt. Just attempting to show the differences in DI as in all levels of baseball from the top tier on down to whatever you may consider the low tier of each level of play.

 

Now now, the Eagles are expecting great things this year. This is an interesting thread that should be past along to all H.S. players. Thanks

Interesting note about junior colleges in today's Courier-Journal. Blake Driake, a 2007 graduate of Eastern High School, attended Wabash Valley College (a division I junior college) and is a sophomore this year. He has signed to play baseball at Arkansas for the 2009-10 season. I thought I had heard that he was originally going to U of L as a freshman.