November 23, 200817 yr At least he checked them, I know folks who are very liberal with the regulations. Are they from Carter Co.?
December 9, 200817 yr According to telecheck I have killed a deer in my home county this year, I did not. According to telecheck my son has killed two antlered in two different counties, he did not. In both cases though our exact name including middle initial was the same. I know the person with my name that killed the deer, but have no idea who the person is with my sons name 100 miles from where we live. I would have to believe this is the case with these gentlemen, as ironic as it may seem.
December 17, 200817 yr Greg Ritz. I put celebrity in quotes because I wouldn't put him in at the same level as some of the others. If you look at Crittenden Co and Union Co for last year and this year you will see names like Stan Potts, Greg Miller, Michael Waddell, Troy Ruiz, and a few others that are slipping my mind right now. These guys are hunting on private "game" farms. I beleive they are hunting on Thompson Centers property in Ky. It's mostly "canned" hunts your watching on tv. I know Stan Potts has hunted on one in Ohio the last two or three years and taken 180's class bucks.The price to hunt on the one in Ohio ranges up to $6000.00. They even knew how many trophy bucks they had available to take this year and it was 120. They raise the deer so they can get the bigger antlers they want.This year they had 1 1/2 year old that scored over 260, so its not like real hunting, its more like real shooting !
December 17, 200817 yr Author These guys are hunting on private "game" farms. I beleive they are hunting on Thompson Centers property in Ky. It's mostly "canned" hunts your watching on tv. I know Stan Potts has hunted on one in Ohio the last two or three years and taken 180's class bucks.The price to hunt on the one in Ohio ranges up to $6000.00. They even knew how many trophy bucks they had available to take this year and it was 120. They raise the deer so they can get the bigger antlers they want.This year they had 1 1/2 year old that scored over 260, so its not like real hunting, its more like real shooting ! The outfitters/canned hunts you describe do exist. Timber Ghost Range in Missouri has high fenced trophy hunts that will cost you up to $12,000. I don't doubt they exist in Ohio. If they exist in Kentucky it wouldn't matter. The game laws don't cease to exist because you put a fence around your property. The guys I am describing are in fact hunting at Thompson Center's Game Trails. However this property does not offer a canned hunt. The property consists of 11,700 acres of free range (no high fences) that was owned by Kimball international. However it was sold in November to a timber management company who will probably eventually sell it to the state.
December 17, 200817 yr The outfitters/canned hunts you describe do exist. Timber Ghost Range in Missouri has high fenced trophy hunts that will cost you up to $12,000. I don't doubt they exist in Ohio. If they exist in Kentucky it wouldn't matter. The game laws don't cease to exist because you put a fence around your property. The guys I am describing are in fact hunting at Thompson Center's Game Trails. However this property does not offer a canned hunt. The property consists of 11,700 acres of free range (no high fences) that was owned by Kimball international. However it was sold in November to a timber management company who will probably eventually sell it to the state. I don't want to mislead anyone, they don't corner them in the fence and shoot them. But you have to know that they keep everone off that land and keep the deer in with food plots . It is a very far cry from hunting as normal. It is really about money , selling products, and tv shows to them. If you watch the credits on their shows they generally name the ranches or outfitters. These guys don't hunt as the average person knows hunting.
December 17, 200817 yr Author I don't want to mislead anyone, they don't corner them in the fence and shoot them. But you have to know that they keep everone off that land and keep the deer in with food plots . It is a very far cry from hunting as normal. It is really about money , selling products, and tv shows to them. If you watch the credits on their shows they generally name the ranches or outfitters. These guys don't hunt as the average person knows hunting. No they don't hunt as the average person does. But that is more of a result of having money, lots of land, and a good management program in place. The average person either has to hunt public land or only has access to small parcels of private land to hunt. Most don't own the land so planting food plots usually isn't an option. And people who do own their own land usuauly don't own enough to manage for trophy deer. As far as keeping everyone off the land if you owned a couple 100 acres would you open it up to the public to hunt? You also have to understand that just because you plant food plots doesn't mean the big boys are going to hang out in them all day like a shooting gallery. You still have to put in the time.
December 18, 200817 yr I have been deer hunting for about 40 years and have had good results on public land. I haven't hunted in Ky. for the last five because I don't like to impose on anyone. What you see on tv , although they do put in some time, allows them to be very selective. Their odds are probably ten times higher on getting a trophy than ours on public land. We have planted corn and do have apple trees that keep the does and fawns on our property and that generally keeps the big boys around until after the first rut. I usually take one or two does for the freezer , and continue to hunt a big one through the remainder of the season. I have had some years that I didn't shoot at a buck , but most of the time I get lucky somehow. I won't shoot unless I beleive it to be 130 or better. And I don't have them mounted unless they go 140 plus with some unique features. I do have a double drop tine with tripple brow tines with 17 scoreable points that I had mounted, and several more with some good features, But there is a lot of time invested and a lot of luck involved.
December 18, 200817 yr Author Their chances of taking a trophy are definitely higher then anyone hunting public land. Would love to see picks of your double drop. I have never even seen a buck in the wild with a drop much less taken one.
December 18, 200817 yr I would love to see a picture of the double drop as well. I own approx. 45 acres and try to "manage" the bucks to let them grow bigger but it is hard when the neighbors shoot a small buck just to say they got one. I won't shoot a buck unless it is 140 plus and then those are the ones I get mounted. I have food plots and let my land "brush" grow as to give them cover, which is the best thing to do. I have a 167 class 11 point as my best and saw one this year that would go about 150 but couldn't get a clean shot. It was after modern gun season, which is the only time my neighbors hunt, so he should be there next year if I don't see him in bow range.
December 18, 200817 yr Here's the drop tine. He has a couple of points off the back, one on the left of his left g2. But he is UGLY ! He's been exiled to the basement with all his buddies (she said) [ATTACH]25461[/ATTACH]
December 19, 200817 yr I like the rack but the deer face itself does look fairly ugly. The face looks very thin unless it is just the way the picture is taken. Nice buck though.:banana:
December 19, 200817 yr ^^^Just a bad angle , and a blind man with a camera standing to close to his nose.
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