October 13, 200817 yr So you take everyone at their word? :lol::lol: Now that's funny. We're talking about the man's grandmother. Please give us some possible suggestions as to her motive for making this up. And seriously, why would he fight this thing? Show one piece of paper (if it truly exists) proving you were born in Hawaii and be done with this charade, if that's what it is.
October 13, 200817 yr A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent in wedlock acquires U.S. citizenship at birth, provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law.
October 13, 200817 yr Author I read the link. Highlight for me where is says "she doesn't like black people." "He turned around and I saw that he was shaking. 'It is a big deal. It's a big deal to me. She's been bothered by men before. You know why she's so scared this time. I'll tell you why. Before you came in, she told me the fella was black.' He whispered the word. 'That's the real reason why she's bothered. And I just don't think thats right.'" ???
October 13, 200817 yr Author A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent in wedlock acquires U.S. citizenship at birth, provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law. Through birth abroad to one United States citizen For persons born on or after November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:[4] 1. One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person in question was born; 2. The citizen parent lived at least 5 years in the United States before his or her child's birth; and 3. At least 2 of these 5 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday. A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of his or her citizenship. Such a person may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have a record of his or her citizenship. Such documentation is often useful to prove citizenship in lieu of the availability of an American birth certificate. Different rules apply for persons born abroad to one U.S. citizen before November 14, 1986. United States law on this subject changed multiple times throughout the twentieth century, and the law as it existed at the time of the individual's birth controls. Did you not read the bolded?
October 13, 200817 yr ??? That is not what it says. I think one can discern that she felt intimidated by a black man (men), but that is different from not liking them.
October 13, 200817 yr That is not what it says. I think one can discern that she felt intimidated by a black man (men), but that is different from not liking them. This is from Obama's speech defending Rev Wright. The one he gave like a week before throwing Wright under the bus. I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother -- a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
October 13, 200817 yr :lol::lol: Now that's funny. We're talking about the man's grandmother. Please give us some possible suggestions as to her motive for making this up. And seriously, why would he fight this thing? Show one piece of paper (if it truly exists) proving you were born in Hawaii and be done with this charade, if that's what it is. Maybe someone is paying her to make up stories? Maybe she sees this as a chance to move to the United States? Point is, you don't know people's motives. I don't think Obama is fighting it, I just think he is busier winning the election to stop and prove he's a citizen to a bunch of conspiracy theorists. Seriously, this guy may be the most vetted candidate ever. Don't you think if all these things were true about them they would have come to light far before the last 3 weeks of the election? Dont' you think Hillary would have pulled this out of her back pocket in February?
October 13, 200817 yr That is not what it says. I think one can discern that she felt intimidated by a black man (men), but that is different from not liking them. No, the reason she was intimidated by the man, was because he was black....Spin it any way you like, but that sounds a heck of a lot like not liking blacks to me....
October 13, 200817 yr Through birth abroad to one United States citizen For persons born on or after November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:[4] 1. One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person in question was born; 2. The citizen parent lived at least 5 years in the United States before his or her child's birth; and 3. At least 2 of these 5 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday. A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of his or her citizenship. Such a person may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have a record of his or her citizenship. Such documentation is often useful to prove citizenship in lieu of the availability of an American birth certificate. Different rules apply for persons born abroad to one U.S. citizen before November 14, 1986. United States law on this subject changed multiple times throughout the twentieth century, and the law as it existed at the time of the individual's birth controls. Did you not read the bolded? Give me that link.
October 13, 200817 yr Maybe someone is paying her to make up stories? Maybe she sees this as a chance to move to the United States? Point is, you don't know people's motives. I don't think Obama is fighting it, I just think he is busier winning the election to stop and prove he's a citizen to a bunch of conspiracy theorists. Seriously, this guy may be the most vetted candidate ever. Don't you think if all these things were true about them they would have come to light far before the last 3 weeks of the election? Dont' you think Hillary would have pulled this out of her back pocket in February? Sounds like you're making some conspiracy theories of you own....I find it laughable that you just automatically assume the lady is lying.
October 13, 200817 yr Author Wiki is the easiest - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law
October 13, 200817 yr Sounds like you're making some conspiracy theories of you own....I find it laughable that you just automatically assume the lady is lying. I find it laughable you believe everything you read.
October 13, 200817 yr Author Sounds like you're making some conspiracy theories of you own....I find it laughable that you just automatically assume the lady is lying. Do not question "The One"
October 13, 200817 yr Wiki is the easiest - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law How about we go to the gospel? http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html Now show me in there where Obama wouldn't be a citizen.
October 13, 200817 yr I find it laughable you believe everything you read. I never said I believe it. It is worthy of some consideration though IMO. To just completely dismiss it when there is NO reason to doubt her is wrong.
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