September 10, 200818 yr http://www.education.ky.gov/KDE/Administrative+Resources/Testing+and+Reporting+/Reports/Kentucky+Core+Content+Test/2008+Kentucky+Core+Content+Test.htm Out of the top 25 school districts 16 of them are Independents. Way to go Small Districts!!!:dancingpa:dancingpa Mod: I don't know how to do a link but the web address is above, could you please turn it into a link
September 10, 200818 yr On the whole, test scores went down from 2007 to 2008. It appears while the state improved drastically in on-demand writing, we slipped singificantly in social studies and arts and humanities.
September 10, 200818 yr The system is flawed. The numbers mean nothing to me. When you compare last year's class to this year's class it's apples and oranges. Come up with a system that tracks where a kid starts and where they end up and you've got something worth looking at.
September 10, 200818 yr The system is flawed. The numbers mean nothing to me. When you compare last year's class to this year's class it's apples and oranges. Come up with a system that tracks where a kid starts and where they end up and you've got something worth looking at. We disagree. If a kid starts out in a horrendous situation and makes significant progress but still can't put two coherent sentences together, he's not going to get "credit" from me because he's come so far and has made so much effort. He's still not literate, he still shouldn't pass to the next grade, and I'm certainly not going to hire him. Sorry, I'm cruel-hearted and cold. If you want to debate the social sciences of the "why," there is a place for it, but is not in testing, curriculum, or the classroom.
September 10, 200818 yr We disagree. If a kid starts out in a horrendous situation and makes significant progress but still can't put two coherent sentences together, he's not going to get "credit" from me because he's come so far and has made so much effort. He's still not literate, he still shouldn't pass to the next grade, and I'm certainly not going to hire him. Sorry, I'm cruel-hearted and cold. If you want to debate the social sciences of the "why," there is a place for it, but is not in testing, curriculum, or the classroom. This test has absolutely nothing to do with passing to the next grade. That system is flawed too. I agree the students should have to pass a proficiency level for each grade for them to pass. That's a different animal in my opinion If a kid starts out in a horrendous situation and makes significant progress then he/she will be able to put two coherent sentences together. He might not be able to do advanced algebra work though. Education is about individual progress.... period.
September 10, 200818 yr Author Just curious, but why do you think this is a reason for celebration? I am proud of small school districts because I teach in one and besides proves a theory that I have had for sometime that small classroom size is the key to student achievement. Let's start the deconsolidation process....(wishful thinking, greed gets in the way of this idea):cry:
September 10, 200818 yr I am proud of small school districts because I teach in one and besides proves a theory that I have had for sometime that small classroom size is the key to student achievement. Let's start the deconsolidation process....(wishful thinking, greed gets in the way of this idea):cry: I know this is threadjacking so I'll be brief. I believe you are wrong. I don't know where you teach or your age, but I have seen the results of consolidation in the elimination of small, underfunded schools being consolidated into modern, high tech buidings offering students advanced classes, technology, extra-currilar activities, and exposure to modern facilities that just isn't possible when the money is spread out over too many schools.
September 10, 200818 yr I am proud of small school districts because I teach in one and besides proves a theory that I have had for sometime that small classroom size is the key to student achievement. Let's start the deconsolidation process....(wishful thinking, greed gets in the way of this idea):cry: Not sure why this is in P & R but a large school does not preclude a small classroom.
September 10, 200818 yr Author Not sure why this is in P & R but a large school does not preclude a small classroom. The whole idea of funding education is political though and those teachers are affected by politics.
September 10, 200818 yr Author I know this is threadjacking so I'll be brief. I believe you are wrong. I don't know where you teach or your age, but I have seen the results of consolidation in the elimination of small, underfunded schools being consolidated into modern, high tech buidings offering students advanced classes, technology, extra-currilar activities, and exposure to modern facilities that just isn't possible when the money is spread out over too many schools. But look at the scores... bigger is not better. Funding is the key issue along with class size, but it seems no one wants to pay the bill:eek::cry:
September 10, 200818 yr The whole idea of funding education is political though and those teachers are affected by politics. Everything is affected by politics.
September 10, 200818 yr Doesn't matter how many students can pass a CATS test, they're still not passing college aptitude tests. When the valedictorian at a high school is making A's in pre-cal and can't pass college algebra, that tells me something's up.
September 10, 200818 yr Author Doesn't matter how many students can pass a CATS test, they're still not passing college aptitude tests. When the valedictorian at a high school is making A's in pre-cal and can't pass college algebra, that tells me something's up. I think that a national curriculum would solve this! Each state sets its own standards. However, anything nationalized would be considered evil:scared:
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