August 8, 200818 yr Let's check the records. Who has more rings? Who has more playoff appearances? Who has more World Series teams? Again, if all it takes is a big payroll, why aren't the Mets there every year? What about team like the Tigers and Dodgers? Guys spend money and lose. The Yanks spend money and win more than everyone else under Cashman's term. You cannot discount the moves he has made and the wins his teams have had. By the way, one of the reasons why the Yanks have money is because they continue to win and sell out games. Cashman has been a big part of putting these teams together and winning to help maintain his big payroll. You cannot fault Cashman for making the best of his situation and the Yanks as an organization for their commitment to winning. Very few GMs know the pressure Cashman has to deal with. Look at Cashman's record and the conditions in which he has to make moves and manage personnel decisions (win or else) and I would again contend his job is tougher than a small market GM that gets the chance to rebuild after a few years. I am not saying he is isn't good at his job but he is not near the best. When it comes to money spent none of those teams compare to what the Yanks spend year in and year out. If some of those GMs from small market teams had that payroll it would be unbelievable what they could do.
August 8, 200818 yr A lot of teams sell out most of their games. IT is the YES network and the owners that shell out the money for Cashman. Most teams don't even sniff the Yanks attendance numbers. It is not even close. Most teams do not sell out their games. That is 100% false. http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/attendance.htm The point is that Brian Cashman wins and makes his own great situation. The Yanks didn't alway sell out and win. The have a great front office led by Cashman that create ther own winning environment which boosts their payroll. Obviously the YES Network is important, but other team have their own networks and they still don't generate the revenue the Yankees do. The Yanks have a great owner and a great GM that have made their team great for the last decade and a half.
August 8, 200818 yr You're a Yankee homer. We get it... What a cop out!!! Yes, I think that the GM that has the most wins, rings, World Series appearances, playoff appearances and division titles since his hire has done a great job and desearves to be recognized as the best. All Brian Cashman has done since his hire is win!!! Again, if it is so easy to win with a big payroll how come the 8 biggest payrolls don't make the playoffs every year? I am a Yankee fan, I don't deny it and I don't apologize for it. I also think that Theo Epstein deserves to be number 2 on the list. I think Billy Beane is a little over-rated. I think big payroll teams get hated on by Yankee and Red Sox haters who think that anybody can win with the payroll. It just isn't true! Check the records of the teams that have a payroll over $100 million. It is not as easy as folks are trying to make it out to be. http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=1994 USA Today has access to the top payrolls for the last decade and a half or so. Check payrolls and match records and prove me wrong with facts. :thumb:
August 8, 200818 yr What a cop out!!! Yes, I think that the GM that has the most wins, rings, World Series appearances, playoff appearances and division titles since his hire has done a great job and desearves to be recognized as the best. All Brian Cashman has done since his hire is win!!! Again, if it is so easy to win with a big payroll how come the 8 biggest payrolls don't make the playoffs every year? I am a Yankee fan, I don't deny it and I don't apologize for it. I also think that Theo Epstein deserves to be number 2 on the list. I think Billy Beane is a little over-rated. I think big payroll teams get hated on by Yankee and Red Sox haters who think that anybody can win with the payroll. It just isn't true! Check the records of the teams that have a payroll over $100 million. It is not as easy as folks are trying to make it out to be. http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=1994 USA Today has access to the top payrolls for the last decade and a half or so. Check payrolls and match records and prove me wrong with facts. :thumb: Cashman did very little to assemble the core of the teams that won 3 straight World Series from 98-00. I would think that at least 10 GMs that were handed Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams, Paul O'Neil, Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera, David Cone and the biggest payroll in baseball could have had his success those 3 seasons. How about since then? True they have made the playoffs each year but Cashman has also seen the Yankees most bitter rival surpass them. Also the teams that he really built (post 2000) are currently in the Yankee's 3rd longest World Series drought since they won their first Title in 1923. He's very competent but he's not the best.
August 8, 200818 yr What a cop out!!! Yes, I think that the GM that has the most wins, rings, World Series appearances, playoff appearances and division titles since his hire has done a great job and desearves to be recognized as the best. All Brian Cashman has done since his hire is win!!! Again, if it is so easy to win with a big payroll how come the 8 biggest payrolls don't make the playoffs every year? I am a Yankee fan, I don't deny it and I don't apologize for it. I also think that Theo Epstein deserves to be number 2 on the list. I think Billy Beane is a little over-rated. I think big payroll teams get hated on by Yankee and Red Sox haters who think that anybody can win with the payroll. It just isn't true! Check the records of the teams that have a payroll over $100 million. It is not as easy as folks are trying to make it out to be. http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=1994 USA Today has access to the top payrolls for the last decade and a half or so. Check payrolls and match records and prove me wrong with facts. :thumb: So, you're saying that teams with high payrolls don't necessarily mean they are successful? Wouldn't that mean that the teams like Minnesota, Oakland, St. Louis, etc. who have smaller payrolls and still manage to be consistently competing for the playoffs and WS have GMs doing a better job? I mean after all they are doing it with much more limited resources than your golden boy Cashman is....
August 8, 200818 yr Cashman did very little to assemble the core of the teams that won 3 straight World Series from 98-00. I would think that at least 10 GMs that were handed Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams, Paul O'Neil, Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera, David Cone and the biggest payroll in baseball could have had his success those 3 seasons. How about since then? True they have made the playoffs each year but Cashman has also seen the Yankees most bitter rival surpass them. Also the teams that he really built (post 2000) are currently in the Yankee's 3rd longest World Series drought since they won their first Title in 1923. He's very competent but he's not the best. Don't forget the other players on the teams that contributed, like Roger Clemens, Hideki Matsui, Chuck Knoblach, David Wells, David Justice, Orlando Hernandez- you know, the guys Cashman signed that allowed the Yankees to win 3 in a row. He also managed to keep the guys you mentioned before in NYC to keep the winning tradition going. You want to disagree, fine. :thumb:
August 8, 200818 yr So, you're saying that teams with high payrolls don't necessarily mean they are successful? Wouldn't that mean that the teams like Minnesota, Oakland, St. Louis, etc. who have smaller payrolls and still manage to be consistently competing for the playoffs and WS have GMs doing a better job? I mean after all they are doing it with much more limited resources than your golden boy Cashman is.... First, the Cards have a payroll over $100 million, so I wouldn't call them small market. Second, Oakland and Minnesota have no rings while Cashman has been a GM. If you want to argue about the Marlins proficiency, fine. Billy Beane gets the most credit for a guy that has never won anything that I have ever seen. I'm sorry, he isn't better than Cashman in my eyes.
August 8, 200818 yr Was I wrong? Nope... Yes, you are wrong. I am not picking Brian Cashman because I am a Yankee fan. I am picking him because he is the best. Remember, the wins, the rings...etc.:thumb:
August 8, 200818 yr Don't forget the other players on the teams that contributed, like Roger Clemens, Hideki Matsui, Chuck Knoblach, David Wells, David Justice, Orlando Hernandez- you know, the guys Cashman signed that allowed the Yankees to win 3 in a row. He also managed to keep the guys you mentioned before in NYC to keep the winning tradition going. You want to disagree, fine. :thumb: David Wells was already on the team the year before they won in 1998, he wasn't brought in by Cashman. Matsui didn't come into the league until 2003, he hasn't won a Title. David Justice was only on the 2000 team and he hit .200 for the postseason. Chuck Knoblauch was a disaster in Pinstripes, he forgot how to throw and the team won in spite of him. As for keeping the other guys, well how hard is it to keep your own players when you can pay them twice as much as anyone else.
August 8, 200818 yr Yes, you are wrong. I am not picking Brian Cashman because I am a Yankee fan. I am picking him because he is the best. Remember, the wins, the rings...etc.:thumb: The absurd contracts for washed up arms. The affinity for steroid users. Getting lapped by Boston recently. The inability to consistently produce from within. He's done a good job in NY. He's not the best GM in the game...
August 8, 200818 yr The absurd contracts for washed up arms. The affinity for steroid users. Getting lapped by Boston recently. The inability to consistently produce from within. He's done a good job in NY. He's not the best GM in the game... Says you...which is fine!:thumb:
August 8, 200818 yr David Wells was already on the team the year before they won in 1998, he wasn't brought in by Cashman. Matsui didn't come into the league until 2003, he hasn't won a Title. David Justice was only on the 2000 team and he hit .200 for the postseason. Chuck Knoblauch was a disaster in Pinstripes, he forgot how to throw and the team won in spite of him. As for keeping the other guys, well how hard is it to keep your own players when you can pay them twice as much as anyone else. Okay...we disagree. :thumb:
August 9, 200818 yr Most teams don't even sniff the Yanks attendance numbers. It is not even close. Most teams do not sell out their games. That is 100% false. http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/attendance.htm The point is that Brian Cashman wins and makes his own great situation. The Yanks didn't alway sell out and win. The have a great front office led by Cashman that create ther own winning environment which boosts their payroll. Obviously the YES Network is important, but other team have their own networks and they still don't generate the revenue the Yankees do. The Yanks have a great owner and a great GM that have made their team great for the last decade and a half. I didn't say most, I say a lot. There are several teams with good attendance. You are kidding yourself you don't think the YES network does not bring in more money than other networks. That was talked about a few years ago on ESPN quite a bit.
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