A friend just called me to ask about transfer rules from a Private school to a Public school. (no, it's not Bluto Jr. #2 - for health reasons he will not be able to participate in football)

 

 

Here's the situation. The kid is a freshman, has been in the football program for 3 years. This year he played at the end of a few varsity games.

 

Next year:

 

1) Am I correct in that he cannot play varsity football at the public school (he lives in another county)?

 

2) Can he participate at the JV level?

 

3) Can he play any other sports?

 

4) The reasons for the transfer are financial hardship. Could the family appeal to some authority for a waiver?

I am only going by what I decipher from Rule 6, I guess the KHSAA can do what ever they want.

http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw6.pdf

 

1. Possibly. To start with, an investigation into his eligibility will only be performed if the school he is leaving contests his eligibility. Is he going to be attending the school district in which he lives? If, so he may be immediately eligible.

 

2. I believe he can play JV. Bylaw 6 only says Varsity.

 

3. Bylaw 6 uses the word Varsity. And it says that if you play any varsity games in any sport then you are ineligible for all varsity sports.

 

4. They could if his eligibility is questioned.

From the bylaws -

 

7)Member schools are reminded that the Sending School has

no authority in making the eligibility determination, but must

simply report the facts according to the permanent record and

other verif ed data on the form.

A friend just called me to ask about transfer rules from a Private school to a Public school. (no, it's not Bluto Jr. #2 - for health reasons he will not be able to participate in football)

 

 

Here's the situation. The kid is a freshman, has been in the football program for 3 years. This year he played at the end of a few varsity games.

 

Next year:

 

1) Am I correct in that he cannot play varsity football at the public school (he lives in another county)?

 

2) Can he participate at the JV level?

 

3) Can he play any other sports?

 

4) The reasons for the transfer are financial hardship. Could the family appeal to some authority for a waiver?

 

 

He is not eligible at in any sport for one year unless one of the waiver requirements are met. If his family has not moved, he is ineligible.

 

The one potential out could be the hardship issue.

From the bylaws -

 

7)Member schools are reminded that the Sending School has

no authority in making the eligibility determination, but must

simply report the facts according to the permanent record and

other verif ed data on the form.

 

If he played in a varsity contest ( one second) doesn't matter how many or how long he would be inelgible to play at another school. Unless he has a change of residence. This is the way I read the rule? Then it is on a case by case basis.

2. I believe he can play JV. Bylaw 6 only says Varsity.

 

3. Bylaw 6 uses the word Varsity. And it says that if you play any varsity games in any sport then you are ineligible for all varsity sports.

 

He is not eligible at in any sport for one year unless one of the waiver requirements are met.

 

I am reading these as conflicting views: JV yes, or JV no.

 

Can anyone clarify this?

I am reading these as conflicting views: JV yes, or JV no.

 

Can anyone clarify this?

If you play in one varsity football game, for one play, you are ineligible in all varsity sports. ie: varsity baseball, varsity basketball, varsity golf, ect.

 

But, I think, even if you are ineligible for the above reasons, you can still play JV sports of any kind.

If you play in one varsity football game, for one play, you are ineligible in all varsity sports. ie: varsity baseball, varsity basketball, varsity golf, ect.

 

But, I think, even if you are ineligible for the above reasons, you can still play JV sports of any kind.

 

Read the first sentence of bylaw 6.

 

The young man will be ineligible for any sport at any level for one year.

Read the first sentence of bylaw 6.

 

The young man will be ineligible for any sport at any level for one year.

 

Can not play anything, on any level, for one year unless he is granted a waiver.

I am only going by what I decipher from Rule 6, I guess the KHSAA can do what ever they want.

http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw6.pdf

 

1. Possibly. To start with, an investigation into his eligibility will only be performed if the school he is leaving contests his eligibility. Is he going to be attending the school district in which he lives? If, so he may be immediately eligible.

 

2. I believe he can play JV. Bylaw 6 only says Varsity.

 

3. Bylaw 6 uses the word Varsity. And it says that if you play any varsity games in any sport then you are ineligible for all varsity sports.

 

4. They could if his eligibility is questioned.

 

 

If I may (and with no disrespect to Ram), it doesn't matter if the sending school contests the eligibility or not. If he played one second of varsity competition he is ineligible (unless an exception is met) to play at the receiving school regardless of whether the sending school contests eligibility or not.

 

If the kid is rule ineligible, he/she will be ineligible from playing any interscholastic sports (on all levels) for one year.

 

The way the process works is: the tranfer form is filled out by the sending and the receiving school and then sent to the KHSAA. The Commissioner then makes the initial KHSAA determination. If she rules that the kid is ineligible (which she probably will because the kid played varsity at the sending school), the kid can appeal her determination. After its appealed, a hearing is conducted at which the kid and his/her parents can attend, testify and submit evidence to the hearing officer. The hearing officer then makes a recommendation (and only a recommendation) to the Board of Control which has the final say at the KHSAA level. If the Board rules against the kid, the kid can appeal it to the judicial system (as is the case with all state administrative decisions).

 

Hope that helps. I'd suggest the kid sent all the support he/she has concerning the financial hardship when the original transfer form is sent to the KHSAA. Assuming there is a compelling case, the Commissioner may, but is not required, to use her discretion when she makes her initial determination and grant the kid eligibility. Good luck.

I am reading these as conflicting views: JV yes, or JV no.

 

Can anyone clarify this?

 

If he is deemed ineligible he would not be able to play at any level.

 

Unless he is granted a waiver then by rule he would be ineligible.

 

Grounds for the waiver could be financial difficulties if he continues to attend a private school.

Thinks for clearing that up LN. I sill am not able to understand some of the transfer rules.

 

Case in point: several years ago, Raceland received two transfers from the same school. Student A played in several varsity games, but not a contributor, he did not change addresses or meet any of the other requirements for transfer with eligibility.

 

Student B transferred from the same school to Raceland had played one play in a varsity game at the other school. He did not meet any of the requirements for transfer with eligibility.

 

Player A was granted a waiver, player B had to sit out a year. Raceland was told the reason that player B had to sit out was that the sending school contested player B, but did not contest player A.

 

I don't know.

If it's a religious private school, you can also claim religious conflict of interest.

Potential thread-hijacking here and, if so, my apologies. I have another scenario and would like some input.

 

Sophomore who played varsity football (but not baseball) has to repeat his sophomore year due to grades. I know he is ineligible to play varsity football again during his repeated sophomore year, but can he play varsity baseball since he never played it his initial sophomore year? Or he is ineligible for all sports his repeated year?

Potential thread-hijacking here and, if so, my apologies. I have another scenario and would like some input.

 

Sophomore who played varsity football (but not baseball) has to repeat his sophomore year due to grades. I know he is ineligible to play varsity football again during his repeated sophomore year, but can he play varsity baseball since he never played it his initial sophomore year? Or he is ineligible for all sports his repeated year?

 

He cannot play any sports at any level.

 

In addition, he will not be able to play his senior year. Once he is promoted to 9th grade, he has 4 years of eligibility and the repeated year counts as one year.